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Originally posted by Xavius
Actually, it isn't. I didn't spend years studying Earth Science so some kid could come along and correct me.

Spiders are smart, but they lack the intelligence to keep away from surface moisture. Your mouth happens to have that Moisture, and Spiders are attracted to it.

Now, Spiders are also attracted to what is considered the standard temperature of a room in a house. Approximately Thirty to thirty five spiders come into your house yearly.

Half of that amount goes into your mouth because of the moisture. While you're drifting into REM and something light makes contact with you, the sensitivity of the nerves in your mouth react and you either move your mouth around or swallow and so the Spider gets accidentally eaten.

Case closed.

wow, good to know

Originally posted by Xavius
Actually, it isn't. I didn't spend years studying Earth Science so some kid could come along and correct me.

Spiders are smart, but they lack the intelligence to keep away from surface moisture. Your mouth happens to have that Moisture, and Spiders are attracted to it.

Now, Spiders are also attracted to what is considered the standard temperature of a room in a house. Approximately Thirty to thirty five spiders come into your house yearly.

Half of that amount goes into your mouth because of the moisture. While you're drifting into REM and something light makes contact with you, the sensitivity of the nerves in your mouth react and you either move your mouth around or swallow and so the Spider gets accidentally eaten.

Case closed.

Your breath is warmer then room temperature. Explain to me why they would willingly go into an orifice that was shooting out much hotter than comfortable breath. Please? 馃檨

http://www.washington.edu/burkemuseum/spidermyth/myths/whileyousleep.html

Originally figured out by: Someone smarter than you.

This very widespread urban legend has no basis in fact. It exists in various forms; another common version is that you swallow an average of 20 in your lifetime. (At 4 per year, that would make a very short lifetime of 5 years...) A correspondent in Pennsylvania had heard a version that involved swallowing a pound of spiders (while sleeping) in one's lifetime. (That would be over 20,000 average spiders, for a lifetime of 5,000 years at the 4 per year rate).

For a sleeping person to swallow even one live spider would involve so many highly unlikely circumstances that for practical purposes we can rule out the possibility. No such case is on formal record anywhere in scientific or medical literature. Since this page first appeared, I have heard from one person who found a small harmless spider hiding in her ear (which is possible), another who claimed to have had one in her nose (but had no evidence that it wasn't already in her hanky), and one who claimed that when she was a young child a spider leg was found by her lips. But not one person has claimed that a spider entered his or her mouth.

http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mspidereat.html

Originally figured out by: Someone far smarter than the last guy.

Dear Straight Dope:

I have heard from numerous sources (many of them seemingly credible) that the average human consumes an average of four spiders per year in his or her sleep. Is there any truth to this fact? And if so, why would the spiders go in our mouths? --Michael O'Shea

SDSTAFF Doug replies:

Amazingly, I cannot find this one debunked in either the alt.folklore.urban or snopes urban legend archives. I know it's been debunked in the AFU newsgroup--I've been in on the debunking personally, but none of that comes up in a search on the AFU archive. So it's up to me to do what must be done.

One amazing thing about urban legends is that they never appear the same way twice. This statistic variously appears as 10 per year, 57 per year, 19 per year, and all sorts of other numbers. No one can ever tell you where the statistic came from originally, either.

Realistically, the average number of spiders swallowed at night per person per lifetime is probably less than one. After all, most people breathe while they sleep (at least I do) and spiders, like virtually all arthropods, flee from breath. After all, there are lots of vertebrates that EAT arthropods, and if you're an arthropod and something is breathing on you, it's not a good idea to stick around. Simple enough.

For a spider to get into your mouth while you're sleeping, (a) you must have your mouth OPEN, which is certainly not universal, so there's a big chunk of people who can never swallow anything; (b) there has to be a wandering spider in your immediate vicinity, also something which--for most people in the civilized world, at least--is a fairly rare occurrence; (c) the spider has to either jump or fall into your mouth from a long distance, because they won't go near your mouth otherwise (they're not suicidal), and the odds are pretty astronomical of a spider randomly dropping into your mouth from the ceiling.

Put it all together, and it would be a miracle for a spider to end up in anyone's mouth while they're sleeping, except for one rare circumstance--when a spider egg sac hatches indoors. At that point, you can have hundreds of microscopic spiders, a millimeter long or less, leaping into the air in a short time span (under an hour total) and trying to ride the air currents to freedom. This is as known as "ballooning"; you may remember it from Charlotte's Web. If you're in a house where a bunch of microscopic spiders are ballooning around, you MIGHT accidentally inhale about a dozen one night, IF the air were circulating sufficiently for them to get airborne and stay there long enough to drift in front of your face. The odds of such a thing are obviously quite small, but it surely happens to someone somewhere from time to time, and that will boost the average--but not enough that I would believe that the AVERAGE person inhales the contents of one egg sac in their lifetime.

The majority of people probably never swallow ANY spiders in their sleep, so the statistic will be composed of a fair number of people (still a tiny minority) that swallow one or two by accident, plus a vanishingly tiny handful of people who swallow a large number, due to a freak occurrence as above. Not enough to add up to much, especially when you consider that 99% of the spiders swallowed are almost too small to see, and you wouldn't feel them even if you swallowed them while awake. I know I won't lose any sleep over it.

--SDSTAFF Doug
Straight Dope Science Advisory Board

Originally posted by $noopbert
Your breath is warmer then room temperature. Explain to me why they would willingly go into an orifice that was shooting out much hotter than comfortable breath. Please? 馃檨

http://www.washington.edu/burkemuseum/spidermyth/myths/whileyousleep.html

http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mspidereat.html

Excuse me while I light my spliff - HAA-HAA-HAA-HAA!

Originally posted by Itzak
Excuse me while I light my spliff - HAA-HAA-HAA-HAA!
馃槅

Originally posted by $noopbert
Your breath is warmer then room temperature. Explain to me why they would willingly go into an orifice that was shooting out much hotter than comfortable breath. Please? 馃檨

http://www.washington.edu/burkemuseum/spidermyth/myths/whileyousleep.html

http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mspidereat.html

First of all, the majority of the time, you are exerting breath from your nose. Let's not forget that. Even so, let us not forget that Spiders are attracted to warmth AND moisture, which you have both inside of the mouth WHICH is primarily open due to the relaxation of jaw muscles and lip tension during sleep, and the fact that your face is facing the roof so your jaw must lower, giving perfect gateway to an entry for a warm, moist place for Arachnids.

He also fails to mention in his article that, out of the thirty five thousand spider species that do exists, some feed off of moisture and some are actually naturally attracted to moving warmth or consistent warmth's of different types. Not all spiders are going to jump off of a roof into your mouth, especially the one that can sense the warmth and moisture from your mouth, and it's not hard to spot for them. Lots of spiders can visually see heat.

Or let's not forget that you can swallow around fourteen to a dozen spiders at once because of the ballooning effect, which happens to over five thousand spider species, and they range in size, something that guy fails to mention in his article as well.

The reason it's only usually sixteen spiders is because you're constantly moving around in your sleep and Spiders often do not make it on top of your bed most of the time AND because certain types of Spiders dislike breathing, being why the number of Spiders coming into your mouth is so small.

Originally posted by Xavius
First of all, the majority of the time, you are exerting breath from your nose. Let's not forget that. Even so, let us not forget that Spiders are attracted to warmth AND moisture, which you have both inside of the mouth WHICH is primarily open due to the relaxation of jaw muscles and lip tension during sleep, and the fact that your face is facing the roof so your jaw must lower, giving perfect gateway to an entry for a warm, moist place for Arachnids.[b]
Realistically, the average number of spiders swallowed at night per person per lifetime is probably less than one. After all, most people breathe while they sleep (at least I do) and spiders, like virtually all arthropods, flee from breath. After all, there are lots of vertebrates that EAT arthropods, and if you're an arthropod and something is breathing on you, it's not a good idea to stick around. Simple enough.
He also fails to mention in his article that, out of the [b]thirty five thousand spider species that do exists, some feed off of moisture and some are actually naturally attracted to moving warmth or consistent warmth's of different types. Not all spiders are going to jump off of a roof into your mouth, especially the one that can sense the warmth and moisture from your mouth, and it's not hard to spot for them. Lots of spiders can visually see heat.

How many of these species are in my house right now?

Or let's not forget that you can swallow around fourteen to a dozen spiders at once because of the ballooning effect, which happens to over five thousand spider species, and they range in size, something that guy fails to mention in his article as well.
At that point, you can have hundreds of microscopic spiders, a millimeter long or less, leaping into the air in a short time span (under an hour total) and trying to ride the air currents to freedom. This is as known as "ballooning"; you may remember it from Charlotte's Web. If you're in a house where a bunch of microscopic spiders are ballooning around, you MIGHT accidentally inhale about a dozen one night, IF the air were circulating sufficiently for them to get airborne and stay there long enough to drift in front of your face. The odds of such a thing are obviously quite small, but it surely happens to someone somewhere from time to time, and that will boost the average--but not enough that I would believe that the AVERAGE person inhales the contents of one egg sac in their lifetime.
The reason it's only usually sixteen spiders is because you're constantly moving around in your sleep and Spiders often do not make it on top of your bed most of the time AND because certain types of Spiders dislike breathing, being why the number of Spiders coming into your mouth is so small.

What spiders aren't arthropods again Mr. Earth Science?

Don't know. Alot of them you cannot see.

That's why it's only sixteen times a year.

And if you live in a House and you have property, there's at least one f*cking around somewhere.

Originally posted by Xavius
Don't know. Alot of them you cannot see.

That's why it's only sixteen times a year.

And if you live in a House and you have property, there's at least one f*cking around somewhere.

There's been one in the top left corner of my bedroom for the last year. Haven't swallowed him.

Originally posted by $noopbert
There's been one in the top left corner of my bedroom for the last year. Haven't swallowed him.

I guess that's apparent proof you don't swallow sixteen spiders a year . . . or more.

^ Sarcashizzle.

Originally posted by Xavius
I guess that's apparent proof you don't swallow sixteen spiders a year . . . or more.

^ Sarcashizzle.

Or 4, or 57, or 1, or 211, or a pound.

Originally posted by $noopbert
Or 4, or 57, or 1, or 211, or a pound.

Meh, it usually ranges around sixteen. The reported numbers are like fifteen or seventeen or eighteen, usually in the teen areas.

Hell, I've had a few people come into the Hospital that have found DEAD Spiders in their mouths when they wake up.

It's gross and creepy, and it happens.

In the past, I've had a few spiders on seperate occasions drop on to me from my ceiling which I can easily picture attempting to enter my my mouth had I not been awake. Thus it is believable to believe the facts that Xavius has mentioned.

Originally posted by Xavius
Actually, the average american will swallow sixteen spiders within ONE year.

nuh uh really? Dear God! Thats alot o spiders, i hate spiders! 馃槺shockingscared

gross spiders are cool to look at (as long as you have lots of glass or plastic seperating you
but otherwise yuck
they belong outside.

Originally posted by $noopbert
How many of these species are in my house right now?

What spiders aren't arthropods again Mr. Earth Science?

Oh, you edited your post? Let me re-reply here.

I'm sorry, but first of all: Who the hell said Spiders are not arthropods, Mr. Ninth grade?

Oh, I see. All Arthropods had a sensitivity to body heat.

^ WRONG!

Oh, BTW

There are hundreds beyond hundreds of Spiders in your house right now you can't see.

Originally posted by Xavius
[B]Oh, you edited your post? Let me re-reply here.

You do that.

I'm sorry, but first of all: Who the hell said Spiders are not arthropods, Mr. Ninth grade?

No one did. Eleventh grade. 馃檪

Oh, I see. All Arthropods had a sensitivity to body heat.

Breath. Where does it say body heat?

There are hundreds beyond hundreds of Spiders in your house right now you can't see.
Prove it.

Originally posted by $noopbert
You do that.

I just did.

No one did. Eleventh grade. 馃檪

You look small for an 11er.

Breath. Where does it say body heat?

Oh, so your breath doesn't exert the temperature of your body heat now?

Prove it.

It's a common fact, especially if you're living in a House. There are microscopic Spiders you cannot see.

Just because you cannot see something doesn't mean it isn't there.

Originally posted by Xavius
[B]I just did.[.quote]

Go you!

You look small for an 11er.

So? I'm one year younger than most of my classmates. And? I sound like I'm 20+

[quote]Oh, so your breath doesn't exert the temperature of your body heat now?

Not sure actually, I won't pretend to be the doctor. But I'm faiirly certain the temperature of the mouth is different from the core body temperature, though since the exhaled stuff (Carbon Dioxide I think) comes from the lungs which is immersed in the core body temperature I'm not sure. It is still breath though... why keep ignoring that?

It's a common fact, especially if you're living in a House. There are microscopic Spiders you cannot see.

*chews crunchily* 馃槓

Just because you cannot see something doesn't mean it isn't there.

Like the breath they're supposedly afraid of.

Originally posted by $noopbert
So? I'm one year younger than most of my classmates. And? I sound like I'm 20+

Wewt? 馃槓

Not sure actually, I won't pretend to be the doctor. But I'm faiirly certain the temperature of the mouth is different from the core body temperature, though since the exhaled stuff (Carbon Dioxide I think) comes from the lungs which is immersed in the core body temperature I'm not sure. It is still breath though... why keep ignoring that?

It's change is very small while in-mouth. When out of mouth, it converts to the room temperature, which is why certain Spiders can get so close.

No one ignored it. You missed the point. Not all Spiders scatter from human breath. Some are adaptive to temperature and are so small, it doesn't even bother them (Also the speed of average human breathing comes into consideration when talking about the Arachnid actually sensing it.)

*chews crunchily* 馃槓

O RLY?

Like the breath they're supposedly afraid of. [/B]

supposedly is taken into consideration . . . By you, hopefully.

Some are and some aren't. The balance of that ratio within North American spiders is a thin line.

Originally posted by Xavius
For every one human . . .

. . . There are a million insects.

馃槓

So much for God loving us then. 馃檮