Superman vs. Ironman

Started by RUNMAN6 pages

Superman is a very badly written character IMO. Very inconsistent, no logic nor science to explain him. He's basically a fan-driven hero who's cool if you're in grade school and grow out off eventually...

He probably has been written to have most powers a kid would imagine a super hero having.

Well... I remember there were comics that tried to explain Superman's powers as being psionic in nature and that he subconsciously used telekinesis to move things (but then they dropped that whole thing and left it up to the imagination).

Otherwise how could he lift a building by one corner, tilted at an angle? You set a building (especially one that's cut in half) at a 5 degree angle and it's just gonna collapse into rubble. Heck, a house can't support itself either. You just can't lift one... because there's nothing strong enough to hold it together.

Superman physics never makes sense. You just have to sit back and live with it.

He should have bugs in his teeth every time he flies...

He only has superspeed when it drives the plot. it goes away whenever somebody is holding a hostage at gunpoint...

His X-ray vision works HOW again? And why does 1/4" of lead block it, yet 80 feet of steel, 100 feet of concrete, and 6 miles of bedrock does NOT block it?

How does Superman fly? Does he use lift? What's his propulsion? I mean, seriously, what makes him go forward and stop and elevate, etc.? Newton's laws govern even superhero movement. How does Superman fly in space?

How can Superman metabolize earth food? If he's metabolizing earth elements, then his body has to be made of earth elements. Not Kryptonian elements. He's 10x the size he used to be when he was a baby, so most of his bones are made of EARTH elements. What are they? Calcium? Carbon graphite? To look like a human and be able to impregnate a human (as he does in some comics and movies), he must have sperm made from Earth organic compounds. Dude weighs a reasonable amount (under a ton, for example) and when he was a baby, his parents lifted him, so you can't pretend he's made of superdense material... Even if he were somehow "flying"/levitating to avoid crushing through the floor with his feet... how does that explain that the BABY version of him didn't weigh a ton, given that he never learned to fly until he was a teenager?

Superman makes no sense at all.

Plus when superman flies faster than the space shuttle (re-entry speed 16,250 MPH) his face and body should be white hot, from the friction (and blackbody radiation temperature is uniform across materials, so no matter what material he is made of, when he is 1700 degrees he's gonna be red hot...

...and he should be more like 3000 degrees or more, because unlike the shuttle, he does not have "ABLATIVE SHIELDING" (i.e. his skin doesn't evaporate away to cool him off... he's solid and stays solid, so he'll heat up to unbelievable temperatures).

Superbreath? To produce winds of 50 mph that are THAT COVER THAT WIDE AN AREA , the velocity of air coming out of that tiny orifice of a mouth has got to be in excess of the velocities from a plasma torch... i.e. again, he should be breathing FIRE at his lips.

Superman can supposedly manipulate gravitons for flight.

Originally posted by mighty adam
lol iron man lost to omega red

Oh really??

HOW CAN NOBODY TELL IT'S NOT CLARK KENT!?!?!?

The Shoveller (William H Macy): If we had a billionaire like Lance Hunt as our benefactor...

Mr. Furious (Ben Stiller): That's because Lance Hunt *IS* Captain Amazing

The Shoveller: Don't start that *again*. Lance Hunt wears glasses. Captain Amazing *doesn't* wear glasses.

Mr. Furious: He takes them off when he transforms.

The Shoveller: That doesn't make any sense, he wouldn't be able to see.

HAHAHA!!

I want to know what can IM do to Superman without using kryptonite

Originally posted by RUNMAN
His X-ray vision works HOW again? And why does 1/4" of lead block it, yet 80 feet of steel, 100 feet of concrete, and 6 miles of bedrock does NOT block it?

Chemistry 101.

Lead, the element, has a very high density. Gamma rays and X-Rays cannot penetrate it easily, hence the reason why you wear that big, cumbersome lead apron when you get your teeth X-Rayed.

That is why Superman's X-Ray vision cannot penetrate lead.

As for the other stuff, who the hell knows? It's a comic book for pete's sake.

While x-rays can penetrate 80 feet of steel, 100 feet of concrete, and 6 miles of bedrock ???

Originally posted by RUNMAN
While x-rays can penetrate 80 feet of steel, 100 feet of concrete, and 6 miles of bedrock ???

Damned if I know.

I just gave an explanation for lead.

Anyways, my point being, Superman is probably the strongest hero of his era yet if you look intently at the pattern of comic book sales, many other heroes have gained ground on him by virtue of the fact that they are more realistic, logical and based on some scientific notion or theory...

Originally posted by D-Block
I want to know what can IM do to Superman without using kryptonite

Nothing.

Kryptonite-enhanced armor would be Iron Man's only saving grace. However, I suspect that Tony could easily come up with an armor that fires Kryptonite repulsors or some forcefield powered by or derived from Kryptonite.

Iron Man is obviously outclassed in the power/speed department, but he's much brighter and more resourceful than Supes. That should count for something. Hell, if people say that Batman can give Superman a run for his money 😂 , Iron Man should be able to as well if not more so.

Originally posted by Darth Vegas
Nothing.

Kryptonite-enhanced armor would be Iron Man's only saving grace. However, I suspect that Tony could easily come up with an armor that fires Kryptonite repulsors or some forcefield powered by or derived from Kryptonite.

Iron Man is obviously outclassed in the power/speed department, but he's much brighter and more resourceful than Supes. That should count for something. Hell, if people say that Batman can give Superman a run for his money 😂 , Iron Man should be able to as well if not more so.

They say that but Batman should die in a second in a fight against superman K ring or not.

^^ True that

Originally posted by Tony Stark
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Nobody takes "ME" seriously...?

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Have you actually read any of your post? My god they are so DCfanboyish and nonfactual it's amazing the moderators still allow you to post on these comic forums because it doesn't seem as if you've ever actually read a comic book in your life. Nothing that you type on these pages has any merit nor gains any respect from anyone who does actually read comics on even a semi-regular basis. So you telling me that you disagree with my point of view makes me feel very happy confirming my point of view as being the correct one as I always knew it was from the beginning... And I thank you.

You know, you telling me that is really funny. Mr. "Iron Man can beat anybody." 🙄 Gimme a f*ckin break. You're so blinded by your fanboyism on these threads, it's hilarious. I wonder why people even bother arguing against you. Somebody could bring factual information to the table, completely SMOKE you in the debate, will making you look like an idiot (which you do a very nice job of just by yourself), and you'll still say "NOPE... NOPE... IRON MAN FOR TEH WINZZOR!@#$!#$!#$%!@!!!!!" Telling me I have no merit around these forums is a knee slapper considering the dumbass things you've said in the past. Yeah, you keep posting dumbass fanboy crap like this, so people can still consider you the laughing stock of the versus forum. I know I'll just keep sitting back and laughing at you. 😆 What the f*ck is Tony going to do to a VASTLY superior character like Superman??? Oh, that's right, NOTHING. N00b. 🙄

Originally posted by D-Block
They say that but Batman should die in a second in a fight against superman K ring or not.

Of course he would.

Batman is alive and breathing only because Superman allows it.

^^ true too

Hey does anyone have any pics of the new Iron Man movie poster

Originally posted by batdude123
You know, you telling me that is really funny. Mr. "Iron Man can beat anybody." 🙄 Gimme a f*ckin break. You're so blinded by your fanboyism on these threads, it's hilarious. I wonder why people even bother arguing against you. Somebody could bring factual information to the table, completely SMOKE you in the debate, will making you look like an idiot (which you do a very nice job of just by yourself), and you'll still say "NOPE... NOPE... IRON MAN FOR TEH WINZZOR!@#$!#$!#$%!@!!!!!" Telling me I have no merit around these forums is a knee slapper considering the dumbass things you've said in the past. Yeah, you keep posting dumbass fanboy crap like this, so people can still consider you the laughing stock of the versus forum. I know I'll just keep sitting back and laughing at you. 😆 What the f*ck is Tony going to do to a VASTLY superior character like Superman??? Oh, that's right, NOTHING. N00b. 🙄

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How old are you 6? Iron man will probably do the same thing he has done to take on...

THOR who is>Superman
Silver Surfer who is>Superman
The HULK who is>Superman
The Collective who is>Superman
The Super-Adaptoid who is>Superman
RKT who is>Superman

And BTW 02/12/05>03/10/06 NOOB!!!

Originally posted by Wolverine2006
Hey does anyone have any pics of the new Iron Man movie poster

Thanx alot but is that the poster for the live action movie or the cartoon one?

Originally posted by Wolverine2006
Thanx alot but is that the poster for the live action movie or the cartoon one?

Didn't know that there was going to be a cartoon one... I think it's the Tom Cruise (Tony Stark) one.