Will Jack Forgive Elizabeth?

I think Liz pisses Jack off with her denial in the next one she IS in love with him (Jack has the heart next to his before he put it in the jar) She's just in denial about it because Will is standing right there. I dont know if Jack is hurt at what she says or if he is just pissed off that she's in denial still. So he tries to teach her a lesson by shoving her on sao fengs ship for 1 night (Jar of dirt)....but once he realizes she's gone and in danger he's a bit of an emotional wreck(heart gone from jar)..he might not show it on the surface..Jack hardly ever shows weakness on the surface..but I bet we get a hint of it once he realizes she's gone and is in danger..

I agree with that.....

can someone please give me a link for the script pirates 3? iam a lil lost about the sao feng thing and the kidnapping. or if someone could pleasse explain it to me

I dont have the link anymore.

Basically Will brings Jack back..but then sells him out to Sao Feng who has it in for Jack. Will does this because he wants the ship to himself..and he also wants to seperate Jack from Liz because he saw the kiss and he thinks that Jack doesn;t love her. Liz says "the kiss means nothing" to Will. When it actually did because in movie 2 Jack had the heart close to his before he put it in the Jar of Dirt (sao Feng's Ship) meaning that Liz does love him here but she is in denial.

So I'm guessing that Jack feels a tad hurt by this..he blew up/killed the kraken for everyone and died for them (mainly Liz) and she seems to be cold sholdering him and so does Will...So jack without thinking properly decides to punish them both at the same time..To do this he shoves Liz on Sao Fengs' ship, for what he thinks is just one night whilst he saves his own skin. He thinks he's going to see her again the next day...By doing this he makes it so Will cant have her or the pearl from him..and he also does it to give her a taste of her own medicine..she just hurt him..so he's going to hurt her back...(if only for a little while 😂 ).

Whilst she's on Sao Feng's ship..it comes under fire..Sao Feng dies and Liz is kidnapped by Norrington and the East India trading company.

Jack then realizes that she is missing and is in danger. This is where the script ends if I remember correctly.

This all matches in with what we see happen to the heart just after Jack has won it over in movie 2..

Will tries to claim the heart back..(but Jack has it close to his and Will doesn't know)..Will tries to get in the boat (which probably resembles the pearl) and Jack then viciously smacks him over the head with an oar. He then shoves the heart into the jar of dirt and treats it like "leverage".which is what he does to Liz once he gives her to sao Feng.

We then see Norrington come and kidnap the heart from the jar...and he takes it in a sack to the EITC.

Jack thinks the heart is still safe in his jar..but when he gets a big wakeup call that the Jar of dirt is empty..he becomes an emotional wreck..

So jack is going to realize Liz is in REAL danger and he'll want to find her to keep her safe..because he loves her.

im pretty sure sao feng will be killed by the flying dutchman. since davy is looking for the person responsible who took his heart. that invloves liz will jack and the pearls crew. but wow. jack is just pissed that liz is in denial and that shes trying to be too perfect.

I'm so sick of Liz being kidnapped. She's such a strong character. Jeez, why can't she go save all the guys just once and get a lot of credit for it? Nobody cared that in the first one she released all the pirates or went back for Will, or even that she saved him when he was a kid. All goes unnoticed so the guys can save her.

Sorry. I have some feminist in me that likes to come out of her cage once in a while.

GOD I KNOW! its tiring liz getting kidnaped. thats another thing.. i think jack is trying to make her stronger...just a thought

It better work. I hope if she does get turned over to Sao Feng that she'll escape herself. She has such bad luck and she's slightly clumsy. Peas in a pod with Jack that way, but still. She's a tough girl and she doesn't have to rely on the men all the time.

LOL its so true..she's made to be all dressed up in Japanese looking silks etc..made to look all "pretty"(she hates it) 😂..and when norrington sees her he is completley taken aback..but then she totally cold shoulders him so he locks her up..and even condems her to death..

Well, if that's true, makes me wonder if Norrington will ever come around so his fans will like him again. It's like he's the Snape of the POTC world. His fans always root for the better part of him to come out.

Nah he is the reason why her dad is dead..thats why she cold shoulders him..

OR it might actually be Will who was behind the death of her father..It may have been the only way he could save his father.

That would be the one thing that would well and truly hurt Liz when it comes to Will so much so that she will never forgive him again.

Will is going to STAB the heart (which resembles Liz) to save his dad. so will would probably not even care about Liz when it comes to saving his own dad...that means physically and mentally..

he's already starting to do this..he is going to hurt Liz once he betrays Jack in the next one so that he can save his dad..her feelings dont matter now..he just wants to save his dad..and he thinks he can actually keep her at the same time...no way.

I ditto the Norrington comments...I love James Norrington I don't want him to be a bad guy, I don't want him to have anything to do with Swann's death and I don't want him to be killed...I'm still hoping he'll be redeemed in POTC 3 - he'll realize what a jerk Beckett is and return the heart to Liz and Jack....so when Norrington returns the heart to Jack and LIz....thus will come the moment they realize and admit their love for each other...and the heart theory will have come full circle....I've read that script...but I don't believe it...I bet when the movie comes out and it won't even come close to that script....cuz if it does...the movie sounds kind of boring and Disney will lose lots of money...IMO

Disney have confirmed that its the official draft script..they say the story will be exactly the same..but the dialogue will be alot better and polished..

In my opinion the reason why that was leaked to a competition winner was because there are already hints in movie 2 that basically tell us what is going to happen at the beginning of movie 3...its funny how it stops..right where the hints stop in movie 2 😂

Also what happens with the key mimics it too..That key...I think it actually shows us what is going to happen at the end of the trilogy too..Its basically how Liz is feeling towards each man as it passes through all their hands..

Little example:

Will has it - loses it because he is more concerned with his father

Will loses it to norington - the moment where norrington did the "right thing"

Norrington loses it to Jack - He comes back for her on the pearl

Jack puts it proudly around his neck, struts and falls right into a grave - Liz is afraid at the boldness of Jack so she removes the temptation

Jack still has it on in the grave - he still has Liz whilst he's in his purgatry

Big wheel comes along - Jack gets pulled out of purgatory..

he has it on for a while..but it slips away - foolishly hands Liz over to Sao Feng

He thinks its safe on a hook..smiles thinking he is going to get it back but WHAM - Jack thinks she is safe..thinks he's being clever but WHAM Liz is in danger

Jack is STILL after that key trying to capture it whist Will is busy fighting - Jack will probably be the one who saves her when she needs it again

Jack actually saves it from WILL who has it on the end of his sword - Will is going to threaten Liz?

and it goes on...and on..

In my opinion..Disney are going to make it so Will is not worthy of having Liz..but Jack is..the key the one thing he cares about getting whilst norrington and Will are busy fightng eachother and doing thier own thing..he is the one who wants to keep it to himself the MOST..When I was watching that I was like..come on Jack YOU can get if from them! YOU can get it come on!! you deserve it most!..I think its going to be the same thing with Liz in movie 3...jack gets it and is the rightful owner of the heart at the end..he doesnt need to prove that he is hers now..because he has her..she is his girl.so the key can be left..

and then at the end the key.. ends up In Davys hands..but the HEART IS NOT THERE.Its already been taken by someone"JACK SPARROW!".is this where we and davy are going to be tricked into thinking Liz is Calypso?....and find out that she's not..

I dont think that Jack losing the heart has anything to do with whats going to happen at the end of the story..its just up until the moment where he actually gets the heart out of the chest...

ok i totally agree with that but ther eis one problem that might keep jack form getting liz. if jack gets eveyrhting all the time then disney might want to give the other guys a chance...sure jack is the main chracter but disney could always think of somthing els ehe could wnat more and give him that. im all for liz/ jack but jack has to eventually stop getting everything

I think that they will try make Will out to be a very good man by the end of move 3. He will probably become very respected for GIVING Liz over to Jack..after he's become unworthy of her ..I really do think that Will is going to hurt her...and badly.. Jack is the one who is going to be having her best interests at heart throughout most of the movie (wont leave that key)

Will hasn't had the chance to be bad and redeem himself yet in the trilogy.. The writers deliberatley saved it for movie 3

..Liz will probably redeem herself in the middle of movie 3..Jack has already redeemed himself..twice in both movies..he just needs to learn how to love Liz properly and stop treating her like leverage...

It's will's turn now..to be bad..and THEN do the right thing for the greater good...which i'm hoping is give Liz over to the right man..I think Jack will prove to us that he is the right man for her in movie 3..If will does this he will become a very respected and strong character in the trilogy..

It's wills turn to be bad and then do the right thing to make everyone else happy

Will Liz be happy without the pirate life?

Will Jack be happy without someone to love?

Will, Will be happy keeping Liz once he has hurt her so badly?

I'm guessing No..

Would Will be the better man if he stopped being selfish by trying to keep Liz and his father at the same time?

Would he give Liz over to the one man who makes her TRULY feel complete?

Would this cast Will in the very best light possible by the end of the trilogy?

ok i guess your right....gosh you always win! 🙂

I dont know if i am right..LOL i'm just hoping I am 😂

I was just wondering. Will always does the right thing for people but never gets credit for it..

but once he is bad to someone he loves and then does the best thing for them to be happy afterward..I think that would make will out to be th best man of the trilogy..so he's not screwed over by the end of it...

If Will did something bad, redeems himself and then wins liz over..does that make him worthy of her?..

Will hasn't really been there for her at all..even since movie 1..he has never saved her..but if he saved her right at the end..does that mean he actually deserves her?? If Jack was the one who was always there for her does WILL suddenly have the right to snatch her back from Jack right at the very end?

Jack was there for her when she needed it most in movie 1, movie 2 and I'm guessing through out movie 3 he is going to be there for her as well..

and its clear Liz doesn't really want Will...so is she suddenly going to change back to wanting him right at the very end?

ahh I'm just confused..I just hope Disney dont give her to Will..Jack has done so much more for her..throughout the entire trilogy so far..He deserves her much more..even if Will suddenly becomes amazing for her at the end. To me it will be too little..too late..

People seem to think that Jack giving Liz over to Will would be the best ending for all the characters..HOW IS THAT?...Liz wants to be a pirate..she's in love with Jack..she doesn't want to be married. Jack wants someone to love him...it means all characters except Will are unhappy..even will would be unhappy I bet. His woman has CHANGED..he's hurt her..so whats the best thing for Will to do to be happy? let her go with the right man ..which is obviously Jack.