Black Adam vs. Hyperion(exiles)

- Rogue couldn't have had his full power. The asteroid wasn't a normal one, if was something Magneto had cooked up.

- Namora was in the water, she is not a LOW class 100 in water.

- Teleporting a ton of sand INSIDE him was the only way of stopping him, two Hyperion's couldn't hurt him physically.

- Yes they could've killed him, so what? Didn't Chan Tzu have Black Adam crying and bleed on a bench once? hmm? Didn't the four horsemen robots beat his ass into submission so that his dying wife had to use her last powers to RESCUE him? hmmmm? hmmm?

- Full charge from Gambit, do you realize how powerful that is? If Black Adam had a huge open wound and was crippled, then took a full blast from Gambit he would've died.

- I'm not arguing that Black Adam would win, but your Anti-Hyperion feats are just bullshit.

Originally posted by llagrok
- Rogue couldn't have had his full power. The asteroid wasn't a normal one, if was something Magneto had cooked up.

- Namora was in the water, she is not a LOW class 100 in water.

- Teleporting a ton of sand INSIDE him was the only way of stopping him, two Hyperion's couldn't hurt him physically.

- Yes they could've killed him, so what? Didn't Chan Tzu have Black

Adam crying and bleed on a bench once? hmm? Didn't the four -horsemen robots beat his ass into submission so that his dying wife had to use her last powers to RESCUE him? hmmmm? hmmm?

- Full charge from Gambit, do you realize how powerful that is? If Black Adam had a huge open wound and was crippled, then took a full blast from Gambit he would've died.

- I'm not arguing that Black Adam would win, but your Anti-Hyperion feats are just bullshit.

No Namora in the water is a mid class 100 who still couldn't break BA's neck.

You know what I'm going to say it now. BA, Supes, and Silver Surfer would have all survived Blink's attack. The fact is that Blink striahgt up beat him.

Full charge from Gambit wouldn't even hurt Superman or Silver Surfer or Black Adam

And KH couldn't beat the two Hyperions and in fact he wasn't even injuring them.

-And no they are not the fact is that he didn't beat or overpower the two Hyperions, in fact each one proved his equal solo.

-He got beat by Blink's attack that most high-tiers wouldn't even notice.

-When using twice his power he couldn't stop an asteroid that Superman, Thor, or Silver Surfer would have stopped in a heart beat.

-And he still got KOed by a class 75 moving at half the speed of light. BA is remarkably faster and stronger than that.

His only straight up good feat was the Holocaust feat and Hulk, Superman, Thor, Silver Surfer, Black Adam, Green Lantern, and a number of real top-tiers would have easily done the same. The only difference is that those guys could have easily dealt with every other low feat Hyperion had.

Face it he is overrated and not in the league of most top-tiers.

Edit: By the way you do know Namora was able to stop a blow from Holocaust as well 😬

Go read the ****ing comics.

Your interpretation is just wrong.

Why do you think Hyperion said "ugh, ENOUGH!" When rogue was absorbing him? Because it was so fun?

The Hyperions admitted that he wasn't letting up at all and that they were tiring.

Full charge would definitely hurt them. Terra's two boulders slowed down Black Adam. He also almost got knocked out by MM hitting him with that girder.

Blink didn't straight up beat him, she caught him off guard. You don't think Black Adam would notice a ton of sand inside him? Get real.

Hyperion's neck being snapped like that was a low feat, I'll admit that. However, I'm not arguing that Hyperion would win, but that your impression of him is wrong. You think he's barely above a Class 100, when he has killed thousands of superheroes.

Originally posted by llagrok
Go read the ****ing comics.

Your interpretation is just wrong.

Why do you think Hyperion said "ugh, ENOUGH!" When rogue was absorbing him? Because it was so fun?

The Hyperions admitted that he wasn't letting up at all and that they were tiring.

Full charge would definitely hurt them. Terra's two boulders slowed down Black Adam. He also almost got knocked out by MM hitting him with that girder.

Blink didn't straight up beat him, she caught him off guard. You don't think Black Adam would notice a ton of sand inside him? Get real.

Hyperion's neck being snapped like that was a low feat, I'll admit that. However, I'm not arguing that Hyperion would win, but that your impression of him is wrong. You think he's barely above a Class 100, when he has killed thousands of superheroes.

Ok I will concede that maybe it wasn't two times but it was more than one. It was the whole reason he had Rouge absorb some of his ability because he couldn't do it alone and in fact he wasn't able to do it with help. 😉

They never mention getting tired at all. They easily took Hyperions blows and the only advantage he admits having over them is that he is meaner and more ruthless. He never showed to be their absolute superior.

And just for reference it took two Flash Vision blasts to beat Namora

I don't think BA's body would contort the way Hyperion's body did. By the way Terra's boulders would probably have more force then Gambit's attack and MM's strength behind the girdle is what mattered.

And by the way just to mention the only reason he beat Holocaust is because Holocaust's energy was being absorbed by KH. Thats probably why Holocaust was able to knock KH for a loop before. He mentions that he chose Holocaust because his power would strengthen KH. So while fighting everyone he was actually being amped "sundipped" yet he still couldn't over power the two Hyperions.

And Namora isn't his only low feat. He still got KOed by Exiles Mimic. Namora took a flash vision attack from him once. Before she got killed. He even mentions the only reason Magneto can not beat him is because he had no Iron in his blood.

By the way he never broke Adamantium.
He doesn't over power the two Hyperions with a power upgrade.
He gets beat by Blink.
He can not stop an asteroid.

And I'm not saying he si a low class 100 what I am saying is he isn't in Silver Surfer's, Black Adam's, Supes', or Thor's level. Which he isn't.

Ajak miundrapes t5hem both.

then does Thor again.

Oh yes Newjack,I found a mindrapage of Thor.....

King Hyperion wiped the floor with Mimic. I'm not saying it as I compare Mimic to BA. Black Adam recently easily threw a battle ship acroos town. Adam's stranght feats are awesome and brutal he does not hold back, while Hyperion is too proud. He let Mimic do his ball trick, but remember that Mimic almost died in the process.

Originally posted by Rewmac
King Hyperion wiped the floor with Mimic. I'm not saying it as I compare Mimic to BA. Black Adam recently easily threw a battle ship acroos town. Adam's stranght feats are awesome and brutal he does not hold back, while Hyperion is too proud. He let Mimic do his ball trick, but remember that Mimic almost died in the process.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Ajak miundrapes t5hem both.

then does Thor again.

Oh yes Newjack,I found a mindrapage of Thor.....

Blink wouldn't beat him alone, because he can vibrate so that her blinking shit wouldn't work. She caught him off guard. The only reason Mimic survived the crash with Hyperion was due to his healing factor, without it he would've died.

Until we've seen Hyperion actually beat Thor on panel, I suppose Black Adam takes this 10/10. Hyperion did hold a dead Thor in his hands, but we don't know how strong he was.

Either way, Black Adam's speed and endurance is too much.

Originally posted by llagrok
Blink wouldn't beat him alone, because he can vibrate so that her blinking shit wouldn't work. She caught him off guard. The only reason Mimic survived the crash with Hyperion was due to his healing factor, without it he would've died.

Until we've seen Hyperion actually beat Thor on panel, I suppose Black Adam takes this 10/10. Hyperion did hold a dead Thor in his hands, but we don't know how strong he was.

Either way, Black Adam's speed and endurance is too much.

And saying Mimic only survived because of his Healing Factor is like saying KH only survived Namora breaking his neck because of his healing ability.

Exactly we do not know how strong those heroes he beat were. What we do know is the feats he failed to do like stop the asteroid most top-tiers like Thor, Silver Surfer, and Black Adam would be able to stop, some without any trouble.

Wow, you really are annoying.

Black Adam was held back by bullets and poison.

Originally posted by llagrok
Wow, you really are annoying.

Black Adam was held back by bullets and poison.

And BA has taken Bullets straight up before. At least with most of BA's low feats there are actual good feats to round them out.

Hyperion has no definitive good to outweigh the bad. Now I'm not saying he wasn't tough but he is very overrated if anyone thinks he is getting one win from BA or that if he is getting a win from any top-tier like Silver Surfer, Green Lantern, Thor, Superman. 😬

So catching someone offguard means you're stronger than them? interesting.

He couldn't overpower two hyperions? Did he seem injured at all after beating them? No, he wasn't letting up at all. They were on the losing side, that's why Blink had to step in to stop him. By the way, Blink's powers are specifically good against Hyperion, Black Adam wouldn't be able to copy anything that she did.

Superman doesn't go in the same class as Silver Surfer/Thor for the record. They're high herald, he's mid at best. Red Shift could tear Superman a new one.

Hyperion's supercharge doesn't last very long. That's why they ran around and tried to stall him. He didn't show any signs of being superpcharged when fighting the two Hyperions.

Namora is definitely a high class 100 under water and what does it matter if she could snap his neck? He can just heal it in a couple of seconds.

I stopped addressing your bullshit points because they're your own interpretations of the comics, you don't quote what actually happened. There's also a little thing called PIS. Like Blink being able to teleport things INSIDE other people.

For the record, Hyperion could've killed the exiles any time he wanted to. If he hadn't been so incredibly arrogant, they would've been killed many times over.

Black Adam's recent feats in 52 and WW3 all show him being incredibly bloodlusted. Hyperion was never liked that, he just played around.

A lot of Black Adam's feats were off panel as well. I haven't seen him kill anyone comparable to Hyperion on panel. He can't be that good at using his speed either, seeing as he didn't use it when fighting the four horsemen. If he's that good at speedblitzing, perhaps he would've been able to dodge attacks from the Chinese superheroes.

All of Hyperion's feats are him playing around, most of Black Adam's feats are him being bloodlusted.

Also, you are seriously underestimating Gambit and Firestar's firepower. You don't seem to understand how weakened Hyperion was after taking a blast from his own eye beams. The only proper weakness he has.

Black Adam can't copy the teleporting.
He can't make Hyperion shoot himself.

The only way Black can beat this guy is by copying what Mimic did. However, it's not so likely that he would do that, seeing as he fights like a moron. Black Adam has two moves. Neck snap and Gut punch.

Either way, the majority of KMC seem to think that Black Adam would lose. Tough noogies for you 🙂

If you hate Hyperion so much, go make some spite threads like everyone else does. I'm done with this thread, bye.

No but beating them means you can beat them heck Blink even says she is just s fast and can stall him forever almost 😉

He may not have been injured but neither wer ethe other two Hyperions. In fact all of the Hyperions were knocking each other around quite good and I repeat the only reason Blink stepped in was because the Hyperions were destroying the Crystal Palace. That is why she teleported them into the desert room.

Hyperion's supercharge doesn't last long is your excuse. I hate to tell you this but it wasn't like hours went by so unless he goes from high gear to low in a matter of minutes yes he still had his charge 😬

You are right Superman isn't at the same level but Istill put him in there wonder why because he could have destroyed that Asteroid Hyperion failed to do.

Namora is mid-class 100 even in the water unless she is stronger then normal Namor which no evidence suggests. And the point is that a Mid-Class 100 broke his neck. If a mid-class can do that what can a high class do. Probably tear it off.

And my interpretation. I'm not the one trying to say he beat down two Hyperions even though he never injured them. I'm not the one trying to say he couldn't stop the asteroid because he gave some of his power to Rouge. I'm not the one trying to say Namora is a high class 100 when even Namor isn't. I'm not the one trying to say Gambit's power is>than anything BA or Supes or SS could take. I'm not the one trying to make excuses for Mimic KOing Hyperion. I think you get my point I'm not the one trying to make excuses for Hyperion I'm the one looking at the panels and not seeing half of what you are saying.

Of course all of his feats are playing around like he was playing around with the asteroid right. Heck I can even show panels of Hyperion's face where he really gets upset during his fight with the Exiles and just wanted to kill them can you show where he was holding back against the Asteroid or the Two Hyperions I don't think so.

By the way KH does say that the Exiles hurt him more so then he ever thought himself capable of being hurt. So I guess than that the Exiles>than all the other heroes he has fought.

Black Adam doesn't have to teleport to win all he has to do his tear Hyperion's head off which after breaking it shouldn't be too hard.

And the only reason people choose KH is because people like you decide to say he is stronger than Galactus.

And why would I make a Spite thread when this already is one. 😕

I decide to say he's stronger than Galactus? He claims to have beaten him.

GAMBIT DID NOT INJURE A HYPERION AT FULL POWER? Are you slow or something? I'm not claiming that Gambit is above any of those, I'm saying that he could've done the same thing if they had been injured like Hyperion. There's a huge ****ing difference.

Majority of KMC > Newjak.

Making excuses? Well aren't you bright.

Originally posted by Newjak
Thats actually not true we do see him holding the body of Thor by the neck with the other avengers dead around him. Although we do not know how long the battle lasted.

Originally posted by llagrok
A lot of Black Adam's feats were off panel as well. I haven't seen him kill anyone comparable to Hyperion on panel. He can't be that good at using his speed either, seeing as he didn't use it when fighting the four horsemen. If he's that good at speedblitzing, perhaps he would've been able to dodge attacks from the Chinese superheroes.

You do realize that Black Adam beat all four of them, don't you?
Plus, the four horsemen are going to have a face off against Superman and some Justice Leaguers...

Originally posted by llagrok
I decide to say he's stronger than Galactus? He claims to have beaten him.

GAMBIT DID NOT INJURE A HYPERION AT FULL POWER? Are you slow or something? I'm not claiming that Gambit is above any of those, I'm saying that he could've done the same thing if they had been injured like Hyperion. There's a huge ****ing difference.

Majority of KMC > Newjak.

Making excuses? Well aren't you bright.

You know though they wouldn't have been injured like Hyperion to begin with. And yes I'm doubting that even injured Gambit isn't blowing up Superman. By the way I just thought of something Hyperion wasn't even able to take his own Flash Vision but Namora was so I guess Namora>Hyperion.

Majority about 6 people vote and you consider that a majority since KMC had thousands of people 😉

Well isn't making excuses when you keep trying to change what is on panel.

You say he beat two Hyperions there is no evidence showing he beat two Hyperions.

You say Blink caught him off guard like it matters. It still proves she can beat him she mentions she is just as fast as him.

You say he has destroyed Adamantium but no he hasn't.

You claim he beat all these heroes(Which yes he did) yet the Exiles give him troubles.

Then you try to pass it off as him playing around the entire time when there have been quite a few instances of him going all out and despite the fact they was able to hurt him.

Then you try to play on some bad showings for Black Adam but you know the difference between BA and KH.

BA actually has a number of good feats to offset the bad KH doesn't.

Originally posted by Newjak
True

He still got beat and the sand attack happened straight up and they even mention they could have killed him then and there.

Yes but from a low class 100 shouldn't really do much. And Namora broke his neck Namora couldn't break BA's neck.

He still got blown up by a full charge from Gambit and even KH mentions he wasn't sure if it was him or the crystal palace that helped heal him. What he did know though was he was dead.

He was never shown stronger and one the Hyperions straight stalemated him in a Flash Vision battle. so no you can not prove he was stronger than them.

He wasn't weakened though by Rouge and she had his full power just like he did. 2X Hyperion couldn't destroy the asteroid.

He only said he beat Galactus heck the Exiles have beaten Galactus and it was actually on panel.

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And stopping the punch from Holocaust is his best feat.

Namora is well over class 100. She was the strongest on the exiles. If you have sufficient strength who neck could you break. Superman is stated as being almost invulnerable but wonderwoman broke his ribs. General zod broke his jaw.

It was on panel feat when he was transported back to his reality and there was nothing there. He was the only sole surviver and it wasnt stated by hyperion that he destroyed every being in his universe, the narrorator said this and then hyperion brought it back up.

Like I said before hyperion was playing with both hyperions. It was right there on panel.

Hyperion could have easily flew over there and snapped blinks neck but he decided to talk to her which resulted with him getting sand teleported in him. That trick could work on almost anybody, including black adam but i dont think that he would survive.

This is what youre talking about.
http://img60.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles045page10image00012aa.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles045page11image00019qb.jpg

and this is where it says that hyperion killed all of earth heros, this isnt from hyperions mouth.
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp215dg.jpg

He was alone in his universe.

And does this fight look like the 2 hyperions was winning. I want you to tell me who won.
http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp02039vf.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp041ho.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp056hm.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp064ty.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp074va.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp083te.jpg
http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp097wj.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp109hg.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp111fz.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp127ww.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp133xo.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp158tv.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp163ec.jpg

By the way i would like to point out that 1 hyperion (evil version) took on the entire avengers by himself that even had there powerhouse, thor, hercules, vision, etc.... and he won. So king hyperion besting 2 hyperions is a great feat.

He beats black adam every time. Like i said before the guy showed no weakness and what blink done to him could happen to the best. Lets put it like this, if given the chance she could teleport sand in thanos also.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Ahh... never mind that then.

Umm... Black Adam ripped off Amazo's head...
Certainly Hyperion++++.

You do realize that Black Adam beat all four of them, don't you?
Plus, the four horsemen are going to have a face off against Superman and some Justice Leaguers...

Good point, Black Adam's does have a lot of nice feats. Although he needed to rejuvenate in order to defeat Death. I never thought it made sense, but a lot of people claim that Isis saved his life by teleporting him away.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing more of those horsemen robots, too bad we won't see Sobek that much. I mean, he was turned into boots after all 🙂

Carver: Black Adam's speed and endurance is too much for Hyperion. His arm could do what Mimic did. Every DC character has an insane speed advantage over Marvel characters.

Originally posted by carver9
Namora is well over class 100. She was the strongest on the exiles. If you have sufficient strength who neck could you break. Superman is stated as being almost invulnerable but wonderwoman broke his ribs. General zod broke his jaw.

It was on panel feat when he was transported back to his reality and there was nothing there. He was the only sole surviver and it wasnt stated by hyperion that he destroyed every being in his universe, the narrorator said this and then hyperion brought it back up.

Like I said before hyperion was playing with both hyperions. It was right there on panel.

Hyperion could have easily flew over there and snapped blinks neck but he decided to talk to her which resulted with him getting sand teleported in him. That trick could work on almost anybody, including black adam but i dont think that he would survive.

This is what youre talking about.
http://img60.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles045page10image00012aa.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles045page11image00019qb.jpg

and this is where it says that hyperion killed all of earth heros, this isnt from hyperions mouth.
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp215dg.jpg

He was alone in his universe.

And does this fight look like the 2 hyperions was winning. I want you to tell me who won.
http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp02039vf.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp041ho.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp056hm.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp064ty.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp074va.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp083te.jpg
http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp097wj.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp109hg.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp111fz.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp127ww.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp133xo.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp158tv.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp163ec.jpg

By the way i would like to point out that 1 hyperion (evil version) took on the entire avengers by himself that even had there powerhouse, thor, hercules, vision, etc.... and he won. So king hyperion besting 2 hyperions is a great feat.

He beats black adam every time. Like i said before the guy showed no weakness and what blink done to him could happen to the best. Lets put it like this, if given the chance she could teleport sand in thanos also.

Wonder Woman DID NOT break Superman's ribs during the Sacrifice arc. It was never shown, nor stated during the fight at any time. This KMC myth has to stop.