Superman (no flying allow) vs juggernant

Originally posted by Accel
The shield doesn't mean any one or any thing in it stops moving. It's just added protection and if something were thrown at it (like, say, Thor's hammer), then it would slow the projectile's speed.

Juggernaut says it himself, his shield was sapping the momentum from Thors hammer, why wouldnt it say momentum from other people charging him, they are still objects am I right.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Juggernaut says it himself, his shield was sapping the momentum from Thors hammer, why wouldnt it say momentum from other people charging him, they are still objects am I right.

This doesn't mean Superman will be motionless in the same shield, just that he'd slow down against his will if he tried to fly right into Cain when the shield was up.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Juggernaut says it himself, his shield was sapping the momentum from Thors hammer, why wouldnt it say momentum from other people charging him, they are still objects am I right.

Yep

Originally posted by Accel
Yes, it slowed the hammer down as it was coming closer. That's the purpose of a shield, if not to keep a projectile from contact at all.

This doesn't mean Superman will be motionless in the same shield, just that he'd slow down against his will if he tried to fly right into Cain when the shield was up.

Originally posted by Reaper777
But he's not allowed to fly.

Originally posted by Accel
Yes, it slowed the hammer down as it was coming closer. That's the purpose of a shield, if not to keep a projectile from contact at all.

This doesn't mean Superman will be motionless in the same shield, just that he'd slow down against his will if he tried to fly right into Cain when the shield was up.

Exaclty, slow enough for Juggernaut to lay hands on him. 😄

Superman's not the same as a hammer. If he notices his speed decreasing, he can simply go the other direction.

He doesn't need to blitz Cain. He can just dance around him at high speeds.

Originally posted by Accel
Superman's not the same as a hammer. If he notices his speed decreasing, he can simply go the other direction.

He doesn't need to blitz Cain. He can just dance around him at high speeds.

😕

Where is the strategy in dancing around him? Its going to sap his momentum the second he trys to accelerate to high speeds.

Speed isnt really a factor when your fighting Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
😕

Where is the strategy in dancing around him? Its going to sap his momentum the second he trys to accelerate to high speeds.

Originally posted by Accel
Supes doesn't need to move at lightspeeds here, he just needs to be slightly faster than Cain.

I see what you mean, but Juggernaut has no problem with tagging people not just slightly, but way faster then himself.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
I see what you mean, but Juggernaut has no problem with tagging people not just slightly, but way faster then himself.

Originally posted by Accel
You mean when he charges forward and they try to stop him?

No I mean just punching or hitting them.

Then I doubt they were moving much faster than he could during those times.

Nope they get near him moving at any speed and they get smashed.

All they have to do is move somewhat faster than him to avoid his punches. For someone as fast as Superman, it shouldn't be that hard.

Originally posted by Accel
All they have to do is move somewhat faster than him to avoid his punches. For someone as fast as Superman, it shouldn't be that hard.

So are you arguing another stalemate then?

You guys are forgetting juggernaut's main power....When he gains momemtum he CANNOT be stopped...Once Juggs gets going, superman could try all he wants to stop the juggernaut, but he would NOT be able to. Im not saying juggernaut would win, becausse I dont think he could hurt superman, but I dont think superman could hurt juggernaut either...Im just saying Juggernaut has the advantage here, he CANNOT be hurt and CANNOT be stopped when gains momentum.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
So are you arguing another stalemate then?

Originally posted by Accel
No. Supes just needs to remove the helmet and possibly the skull cap and use T-Vo.

Oh yea, I keep forgetting about that lame-ass power. Dammnit. Of all the powers to give to Superman. Why don't we just give him reality-warping abilities while we're at it?

Slightly off-topic...when was the first instance of Superman's T-Vo? What caused it to manifest?