Who should be much more unbeatable than how they're usually portrayed?

Started by Validus5 pages

Originally posted by newjak86
What fights has Phoenix been in that she should have won but lost.

There was that little incident with the electromagnetic pulse.

Originally posted by ankur29
spidereman has spidersense that is like precognition (ability to estimate or predict moves a way of seeing teh futue although i cant remeber where i read that , he has over 15ton strength which is up to 10 cars(eg a bobcat which is a rally jeep weighing 1.5 tons) , he can throw a car without breaking a sweat and he superhuman durability aswell as speed, im sure the guy can run at speeds over cap who ran a mile in a minute (thats almost 60mph for captain america!!)spidey should be faster than rhino who can sprint at a 100mph spidey should be 120mph - 150mph (at the least)
his durabilty makes his skin harder and if you have read teh ultimate spiderman where spidey is in hospital for a checkup a needle coudl not go through him while he tensed his foreamrs im sure this is also the case in 616.

Really?
A rhino running at 100 mph?
These must be those famous sprinting rhinos then, we hear so much about, the ones hunting cheetahs for a living? You wouldn't happen to know where I can go to see some of these 100 mph rhinos, would you?

I have had this idea of breeding them and then entering horse races with them - whoo hee! Can you imagine the look on people's faces when I start lapping those jockeys on their horses that can probably barely do more than 40 mph - oh pity those poor, slow horses - we have a hunting rhino!

Yeah!

Faster than a speeding cheetah!

Bub, if you have one fact so glaringly, obviously wrong, what makes you think anybody will believe any of your other "facts"?

Sometimes it is a good idea to actually stop and read what you've written, before hitting that Enter key...

But to return to the original question - The Flash, definitely. Why? Because I am almost sure that he is faster than a speeding rhino.

Just imagine - we can change his entire slogan now - instead of Flash! The Fastest Man alive! We can now make it Flash! Faster than a Speeding Rhino!

😐 I think he meant THE Rhino.....as in the stupid human 😐

Surfer - The Guy is probably the most powerful hero in either universe by far, and yet is dumbed down enormously.

GL - The ring can do anything.....There should be noway that DD can evolve past something like that. Its akin to evolving beyond magic.
Should never have seen inking.

Flash - With all the tricks the guy uses, he should be able to beat damn near all the superhero populace(barring Surfer). But he's kept down.
Shamefully so.

Thor - The guy wields a plot device at his side. If he had the backing that Superman does, he'd own damn near anybody in a fight.

Superman - Not gonna touch, especially since Vally already attested to the fact that he doesn't lose that much nowadays. Editorial mandate is a ***** to everyone else who doesn't get an S shield though.

Manhunter - Damn. He can do so much, but gets written to do so little.
Imo, he should be able to get beaten by ONLY Flash and GL.
Nobody else. HV shouldn't be a problem when he can just phase through it. Can hit what you can't touch. If i could get my hands on him, he'd really be the most powerful being on the planet.

Orion - He should be the most powerful member of the JLA. By far. He wields the AstroForce, the opposite of the OF. Heat vision shouldn't be repairing tears in reality. This guy should. Too powerful by far.

Originally posted by Validus
Because he can't do anything.

As it stands now, he rarely loses anyway.

Yeah, in fact, he rarely has difficulty at all.

Originally posted by Juntai
Yeah, in fact, he rarely has difficulty at all.

It's true. Those recent "Day in the Life" comics show him schooling more villains in a day than the rest of the Big 7 does in a month.

Originally posted by Validus
It's true. Those recent "Day in the Life" comics show him schooling more villains in a day than the rest of the Big 7 does in a month.
Yep...These last two arcs since Crisis he's defeated a few dozen enemies already, and the Kryptonite laced Kryptonian Warship. lol. Even while the Crisis was buidling up, he was defeating handfuls of enemies in random issues...He doesn't even seem to break a sweat anymore.

What do you think of his recent upgrade?

I don't honestly see it as much of an upgrade, as it is him being written with his powers in mind and not acting like a Kansas farmboy.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Why not 😐

If you could erect a field around you that could cover you entirely and ANYTHING that went through that field would simply be teleported away, how the hell do you hurt him? also when he could just as simply teleport himself if your a matter manipulater and then deck you from another dimension.....😬

He's the spot 😐...

Its like saying Gambit should be tougher but everybody hates him so it dosent matter 😉

Originally posted by Juntai
Yep...These last two arcs since Crisis he's defeated a few dozen enemies already, and the Kryptonite laced Kryptonian Warship. lol. Even while the Crisis was buidling up, he was defeating handfuls of enemies in random issues...He doesn't even seem to break a sweat anymore.

What do you think of his recent upgrade?

I don't honestly see it as much of an upgrade, as it is him being written with his powers in mind and not acting like a Kansas farmboy.


I like the return of super intelligence. Hope to see it showcased more in upcoming issues.

Originally posted by Validus
I like the return of super intelligence. Hope to see it showcased more in upcoming issues.
I like how he's in combat, listening to the worlds radio and tv signals and stuff, so he knows whats going on and where to be next, lol.

Originally posted by Grimm22
He's the spot 😐...

Its like saying Gambit should be tougher but everybody hates him so it dosent matter 😉


😐 I dont particularly care for Gambit but he IS one of the more famous X-men 😬

Spots powers are a whole mess more baddass than regular Gambits anyways....

Originally posted by Dreampanther
Really?
A rhino running at 100 mph?
These must be those famous sprinting rhinos then, we hear so much about, the ones hunting cheetahs for a living? You wouldn't happen to know where I can go to see some of these 100 mph rhinos, would you?

I have had this idea of breeding them and then entering horse races with them - whoo hee! Can you imagine the look on people's faces when I start lapping those jockeys on their horses that can probably barely do more than 40 mph - oh pity those poor, slow horses - we have a hunting rhino!

Yeah!

Faster than a speeding cheetah!

Bub, if you have one fact so glaringly, obviously wrong, what makes you think anybody will believe any of your other "facts"?

Sometimes it is a good idea to actually stop and read what you've written, before hitting that Enter key...

He was talking about Rhino, not a rhino. 😉

Oh, sorry. 😮

But that's pretty stupid too, to tell you the truth. What, did he get the proportionate speed of a rhino, along with the strength? What else did he get - the proportionate agility, and the ability to swing from trees?

Why can he run at a 100 mph? I will give him strength, sure, but how many bodybuilders do you see doing fast sprints? If they want to make it believable, they must check their facts.... Rhinos can charge, sure, and it's a surprisingly fast charge for such a big animal... but a 100 mph??!!

So, if A rhino is not particularly noted for its fast sprints, why should The Rhino suddenly be able to do 100 mph sprints? Just because he is much stronger? Doesn't make sense...

Anyway, this is all off the topic, I know, just a private rant-and-rave session 😛

To return to the topic: The Flash! Damn, I've already said that, huh?

Uuhh, uhm, well, okay, I can't think of anyone now 🤨 😕

galactus
juggernaut
silver surfer
spider man
darkseid
thor

spider-man, rhino, cyclops

flash (maybe they should give him some of batman's "badass-ness"... that guy's got WAAAY too much)

The Eradicator should be owning everybody with ease.

How could anybody with Supermans and Surfers powersets in one character ever lose?

Any hero or villain with the ability to time travel...

It was also fun to watch all the Justice League: Unlimited episodes just to laugh at how underpowered each hero was. That didn't stop it from being a great series.

Definetley the Flash...he and Batman are my favorite characters. Flash shuld be practically unbeatable. (not counting characters like Odin)

Silver Surfer(I mean he and Thor disposal, have a billion powers at there disposal and use none.

Thor ( Well he holds a hammer that can damn near do anything, yet he hits people over the head with it. When written properly he can own just about anyone)

Galactus( He's always starving for some reason?)

Flash

GL (There rings are nearly on par with Mjolnir)

Juggernaut (With his power set he should be unbeatable)