The thing is, Exar Kun's most (and only imo) spectacular feats are his amulet blasts, freezing an entire senate chamber, draining the Massasi to preserve his life and rasing hell (as a spirit) on the NJO (at an early stage). Those things are pretty impressive, but not that great. IMO, his blasts are overrated ( I mean a direct blast did jack to Aleema), his freezing spell was seriously put to shame by Joruus and draining the Massasi could have been a simple spell (and imo, it probably was) that Aleema or Satal could have done with the right knowledge.
While that is pretty impressive, imo the stuff that Revan does in KotOR is much more impressive. It's extremely probable that Revan likely learnt a bunch of sith stuff from Malachor V and Korriban. Anyways I'm too tired to make an argument for him right now, but I just thought I would list my opinion.
The thing is, Exar Kun's most (and only imo) spectacular feats are his amulet blasts, freezing an entire senate chamber, draining the Massasi to preserve his life and rasing hell (as a spirit) on the NJO (at an early stage). Those things are pretty impressive, but not that great. IMO, his blasts are overrated ( I mean a direct blast did jack to Aleema), his freezing spell was seriously put to shame by Joruus and draining the Massasi could have been a simple spell (and imo, it probably was) that Aleema or Satal could have done with the right knowledge.
Not to mention his phenomenal lightsaber ability, which has been very well established.
Once again, you fail to understand that Kun's powers are concrete and Revan's are not.
While that is pretty impressive, imo the stuff that Revan does in KotOR is much more impressive. It's extremely probable that Revan likely learnt a bunch of sith stuff from Malachor V and Korriban. Anyways I'm too tired to make an argument for him right now, but I just thought I would list my opinion.
For the love of God!
We know nothing about Revan as far as his powers are concerned. We know he's a male, he's a former Jedi turned Sith Lord turned to the light side again. We know Malak was his apprentice and he was Traya's apprentice.
That's it.
But, I should have known. You're the guy who believes Lumiya is far more powerful than Sidious and Vader.
Not to mention his phenomenal lightsaber ability, which has been very well established.'
No, it hasn't. He was beaten by Sylvar as a padawan. He wasn't able to defeat Ulic Quel-Droma in a duel. He defeated Vodo with countless advantages on his side. I doubt he was even the best saber dueler of his time.
'Once again, you fail to understand that Kun's powers are concrete and Revan's are not.'
I forgot, you're one of those people who need 100% concrete evidence to base you're arguments on. Never mind logical deduction and common sense.
'We know nothing about Revan as far as his powers are concerned. We know he's a male, he's a former Jedi turned Sith Lord turned to the light side again. We know Malak was his apprentice and he was Traya's apprentice.'
Clearly you either haven't ever played KotOR, or you have a seriously bad memory. We know much more than that from the games. Check it out on wookiepedia.
Originally posted by GM Nebaris
Not to mention his phenomenal lightsaber ability, which has been very well established.'No, it hasn't. He was beaten by Sylvar as a padawan. He wasn't able to defeat Ulic Quel-Droma in a duel. He defeated Vodo with countless advantages on his side. I doubt he was even the best saber dueler of his time.
'Once again, you fail to understand that Kun's powers are concrete and Revan's are not.'
I forgot, you're one of those people who need 100% concrete evidence to base you're arguments on. Never mind logical deduction and common sense.
'We know nothing about Revan as far as his powers are concerned. We know he's a male, he's a former Jedi turned Sith Lord turned to the light side again. We know Malak was his apprentice and he was Traya's apprentice.'
Clearly you either haven't ever played KotOR, or you have a seriously bad memory. We know much more than that from the games. Check it out on wookiepedia.
Logical deduction?
Logical deduction dictates that Palpatine would WTFpwn Revan. Sure you wanna go that route?
The force storm was overrated? Last I saw, it destroyed fleets and anything in it's path. It might be the greatest dark side power or one of them, but it is certainly not overrated. And nobody ever said Palpatine was a superb dueler except for the fact that when he fought Luke, him and Luke both moved faster than the eye could see.
Originally posted by GM Nebaris
No, it hasn't. He was beaten by Sylvar as a padawan.
Lying will not help you in a debate, Nebaris:
I see Sylvar giving into her rage, and slashing Kun across the face, and thus "failed Master Vodo's test". Immediately after, Kun pushes Sylvar's face down completely, and is about ready to kill her. Beaten? I call it bullshit.
He wasn't able to defeat Ulic Quel-Droma in a duel.
Okay, so he stalemated Ulic in a duel. Your point? Ulic is a lightsaber prodigy, and at that point was a master as well. May I remind you Ulic killed Warb Null in a single strike despite Warb using Darkside energies to weaken Ulic? And that's the same Warb Null who held off both Cay and Oss, and sliced off Cay's arm:
Also, he held off a pissed off Sylvar while having no connection to the Force. And about their duel - Kun hadn't even developed his double bladed lightsaber yet.
He defeated Vodo with countless advantages on his side.
Oh! You must mean his one advantage of a double bladed lightsaber! But then again, Vodo has a stick that is more powerful than a lightsaber. By the way, Exar cleaved through Vodo's stick with ONE SIDE of his lightsaber, not two:
I doubt he was even the best saber dueler of his time.
Then who is exactly? Sylvar? The one who is "of no consequence to Exar Kun" described by the omniscient narrator? Or Oss Willum? Who got owned by a couple of mercenaries? Or even Cay Qel-Droma, who gets his arm lopped off every comic?
I forgot, you're one of those people who need 100% concrete evidence to base you're arguments on. Never mind logical deduction and common sense.
Considering you haven't displayed either, I'd say so.
How do you cleave through anything with both sides Sama? Also, I often thought about it but it's quite weird that he opened the other side of his saber but only used 1 side? That doesn't seem logical at all, then again nobody has any idea of his lost technique. For all we know he used both sides like Maul.
'I see Sylvar giving into her rage, and slashing Kun across the face, and thus "failed Master Vodo's test". Immediately after, Kun pushes Sylvar's face down completely, and is about ready to kill her. Beaten? I call it bullshit.'
Yes, she gave into her rage by scratching him. However she was still able to get her hand in position to scratch him without leaving herself in a vulnerable position, thus she could have just as easily punched him and defeated him.
'Oh! You must mean his one advantage of a double bladed lightsaber! But then again, Vodo has a stick that is more powerful than a lightsaber. By the way, Exar cleaved through Vodo's stick with ONE SIDE of his lightsaber, not two:'
A bunch of other advantages. 2 avantages when weapons are concerned: Vodo's wooden staff was not able to handle the cutting power of a lightsaber and Kun's saber stuff was unfamiliar to Vodo. Kun was also fully consumed by the darkside and thus was not holding back one bit. Vodo also still cared about Kun (he was his master) and was trying to turn him back to the light side, thus holding back.
'Then who is exactly?'
Vodo or Ulic imo.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
How do you cleave through anything with both sides Sama? Also, I often thought about it but it's quite weird that he opened the other side of his saber but only used 1 side? That doesn't seem logical at all, then again nobody has any idea of his lost technique. For all we know he used both sides like Maul.
What are you talking about? Why do you assume he didn't use the other side?
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
How do you cleave through anything with both sides Sama? Also, I often thought about it but it's quite weird that he opened the other side of his saber but only used 1 side? That doesn't seem logical at all, then again nobody has any idea of his lost technique. For all we know he used both sides like Maul.
What the hell? You don't even make sense. I'm saying when he cleaved through Vodo's stick, he used only one side of it to do that as seen in the actual source material.
Originally posted by jollyjim311
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=279&page=23
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=279&page=24
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