Marka Ragnos vs. Revan, Bane, & Malak

Started by GM Nebaris5 pages
Originally posted by Great Vengeance
Force attacks can be blocked by a superior force user.

Not fire. Do you mean suppressed?

Originally posted by Mugen
alrights its a possibility, without any proof to an actually dignified power, like ohhh say starting a wildfire, or an inferno, all of which can be done by sith lightning, except only with a flammable source. But all that excerpt says is he summoned fire ( which i still haven't heard of any other sith on a greater level then him ever doing)to make a campfire. And yeah it said he summoned fire ok, well i could use some flint and some leaves to summon fire. Not trying to make a play on words, but i didnt take the literal meaning like you did., but still looking at it from your point of view, i still dont see that abiblity being useful in a force battle against Marka Rangos.

The thing is, the text states that he used sith power to summon fire. I think that it's pretty clear that it was a force power.

And it can't be blocked... why?

Please explain how something fluid like fire will be blocked.

Force push or absorbed.

It's likely Bane just used lightning on the wood...or simply summoned flames from the already burning forest when his ship crashed. Those're the likelist suggestions

Agreed.

Possibly...

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Force push or absorbed.

Absorbed? And I don't think it's as simple as pushing it away with telekenesis. I mean surely Bane could just summon the fire directly at his opponent, kind of like Luke's EL attack.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
It's likely Bane just used lightning on the wood...or simply summoned flames from the already burning forest when his ship crashed. Those're the likelist suggestions

I think if he had done it with lightning, it would have been clear. And also, after actually thinking about it for a while, I don't think he telekenetically pulled the fire over from the burning forest or anything, because the text clearly states that he used sith powers, and since when was telekenesis a sith power?

Since when is moving objects a Jedi Power? Or Mind trick?

There are all sorts of texts that say people used their Jedi Powers, when, in actuality, they are universal force-using powers.

Huh?

Well the reasons why I think he was able to directly summon fire via the force are that the text clearly states he uses his sith powers (which would rule out telekenetically force pulling fire from a burning tree etc.), which would mean that he used some kind of dark power to do so. And if it were lightning, I believe that the text would have made it clear, I mean the whole short story is actually extremely descriptive and clear.

Originally posted by GM Nebaris
Absorbed? And I don't think it's as simple as pushing it away with telekenesis. I mean surely Bane could just summon the fire directly at his opponent, kind of like Luke's EL attack.

I don't think I made this point too clear. OK, if you've played Final Fantasy 7, you'll notice that when you summon fire, you summon it directly from within your opponent. Is there really a defence against that?

I doubt Darth Bane plays Final Fantacy...

lolz good one.

Anyway, if he can summon fire, and if he can summon it in that way, there is a chance that it would be virtually impossible to defend against it.

Well if if one were to slow down the molecules feuling the fire then it would stop it or if one were to create a vacuum around the blaze it would instantly quash it

Hey, we've seen Sith manipulate fire before, this's no different apparently...

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Hey, we've seen Sith manipulate fire before, this's no different apparently...
exactly but to what extent... is it like palps storm or ragnos sword red lightning .... a supernova or a lit fart

We've only ever seen sith manipulate fire through telekenesis.

Originally posted by GM Nebaris
We've only ever seen sith manipulate fire through telekenesis.
dude they just discussed that