CAn super-man be beaten?

Started by ((The_Anomaly))5 pages

First off, a Jedi cannot beat Superman. There's nothing a Jedi can do that would be capable of hurting him, including a lightsaber. Superman is invulnerable, and far too fast, and far too strong. A lightsaber would hit him and do nothing, if he can survive a supernova, then a lightsaber aint gonna do shit to harm him physically. The ONLY thing a Jedi could presumably do is hold him in one place with the force (so he couldn't move, not even Superman is strong enough to beat the force) however, There's nothing the Jedi could do to actually hurt him, so the best they could do is run away. Not that it would matter seeing as Supes is so fast he could kill all the Jedi in the Jedi temple before they even knew what was going on.

A fight with Yoda and Superman would go like this:

*Yoda looks at Superman, Supes seemingly disappears (Superspeed) and breaks Yoda's neck before he can even form a thought* End fight. Jedi are not fast enough to do anything if Superman wanted them dead. As I said, he could go into the Jedi temple, kill everyone there before 99% of them knew what was happening.

As for the X-men, what ones are we talking about here? Most of the X-men however are again not fast or strong enough to compete with Supes at all. Even the psychic ones are susceptible to his superspeed because Superman moves faster then the mind can form a thought. So...Prof. X isn't going to be able to think about controlling Supes, because he'd be long dead before he could. Not to mention Superman has a pretty good mental defences, so it would take Prof. X even longer to do anything (same with Jean Grey) Most of the rest of the X-men Superman could just stand there and laugh at as they "attempted" to harm him, which they couldn't.

Harry potter is human, and his spells are pretty crappy. And he is again susceptible to the "Supes moving before he can think" thing. So he loses.

Gandalf has the best shot here as his magic abilities are very powerful, but he again must think and cast the spell, by which time he would be dead.

There are people who can beat Superman, but not any of the people that are in this list. (depending on which X-men we're talking about)

Its the A x B x C syndrome. A can beat B but can´t beat C, but C can beat B although he can´t beat A. It depends on the situation, the knowledge of the apponents, and who has the suprise on his/her side.

Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
[B]First off, a Jedi cannot beat Superman. There's nothing a Jedi can do that would be capable of hurting him, including a lightsaber. Superman is invulnerable, and far too fast, and far too strong. A lightsaber would hit him and do nothing, if he can survive a supernova, then a lightsaber aint gonna do shit to harm him physically. The ONLY thing a Jedi could presumably do is hold him in one place with the force (so he couldn't move, not even Superman is strong enough to beat the force) however, There's nothing the Jedi could do to actually hurt him, so the best they could do is run away. Not that it would matter seeing as Supes is so fast he could kill all the Jedi in the Jedi temple before they even knew what was going on.

A fight with Yoda and Superman would go like this:

*Yoda looks at Superman, Supes seemingly disappears (Superspeed) and breaks Yoda's neck before he can even form a thought* End fight. Jedi are not fast enough to do anything if Superman wanted them dead. As I said, he could go into the Jedi temple, kill everyone there before 99% of them knew what was happening.

Apparently you have not considered the Thought Bomb.

Thought Bomb would not only kill him, but also anyone else who is non - cosmic.

Did you realise that no Jedi are capable of preforming a thought bomb. Its a darkside technique. AND it has only ever been preformed ONCE before by Lord Kaan (all other times its been "used" -which is 3 in total- are unproven and not known if it was ACTUALLY a thought bomb) So only one person ever did it, yet you make it sound as if any Sith (because Jedi CANT use it) could just bust out a thought bomb whenever he felt like it. Kaan did it, and no one has ever done, or been able to do it since. Not only that but Darth Bane and Zannah managed to survive it, if they can live through it then Superman (who has survived black holes and Supernova explosions) has a pretty good chance of living I'd say.

Not to mention the exact WORDS are "thought bomb" Superman moves faster then they can think to use it (faster then thought). So they die before ever being able to pull it off.

Nice try though.

Heres a link to what your talking about, maybe you should learn about things before you try to argue with them.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Thought_bomb

Martian Manhunter
Silver Surfer
Thor
need I go on.

here's a list of characters i reckon can take the original superman:
1. Hulk (at full power)
2. Classic Juggernaut
3. Professor X
4. The Mask
5. Neo

Neo and Professor X are debatable. Neo has no Superman level feats and no evidence other than hyperbole to support the idea that he is omnipotent in the matrix. As for Professor X, Superman has impressive psi resistance. He's been able to to shrug of numerous high powered mental attacks. The others could do it.

All that is proven is that it can be done, not to mention the user could make himself invisible and undetectable (that's another Force power) while he uses it.

And the ones who survived it most likely did so through some application of the Force, which Superman doesn't have.

the original superman was like the hulk, couldn't fly just jump big distances, super strong, high resistance... that's about it... sounds like im describing hulk

superman would speedblitz them

that's the obvious route he'd go, as when he's going all out his speed is constantly up full blast, that's why the red sun superman beat the living crap outa the gl corps, ww, doomsday and so on, potential is crazy

original superman attributes:
> faster than a speeding bullet (not light, mind you)
> leap tall buildings in a single bound (i'll just give him his flight)
> more powerful than a locomotive (i dont mind his strength in any era, so i'll just let him keep his current strength)
> vast durability

and since im so kind, ill let him keep the following:
> heat vision
> ice breath

there. now you can all make your comments...

Originally posted by Up In Flames
original superman attributes:
> faster than a speeding bullet (not light, mind you)
> leap tall buildings in a single bound (i'll just give him his flight)
> more powerful than a locomotive (i dont mind his strength in any era, so i'll just let him keep his current strength)
> vast durability

and since im so kind, ill let him keep the following:
> heat vision
> ice breath

there. now you can all make your comments...

neo is a non-fight. neo, time and time again has shown he has human durability... its only his speed & strength that helps him...

professor x still needs a headstart...

hulk for all his strength still cant match supes' speed... in a slugfest supes goes down, if supes fights intelligently he can take it imo...

he can't hurt juggs, but i guess he could do the old 'throw em into the sun' routine...

Professor X probably could, but even though this isn't on the list, Shazam would probably destroy him. Kingdom Come comic proves this. Batman would have a good chance until he ran out of tricks, and that's if Superman were holding back. SHAZAM!

GFW Godzilla would have a damn good chance
Ultrafather could beat him 10/10
Ultraman King would slaughter Supes
Captain Marvel(DC) could take him
Ultraman Zoffy a has a good chance of winning
Ultraman(Japanese original) has enough powers to defeat him
Ultraman Taro is possibly stronger, so he might win
Juda would KILL him
Thor would beat him
Martian Manhunter could
Galactus would obliterate him

Captain Marvel vs Supes

http://youtube.com/watch?v=B2BvSqqmidM

Originally posted by pr1983
neo is a non-fight. neo, time and time again has shown he has human durability... its only his speed & strength that helps him...

professor x still needs a headstart...

hulk for all his strength still cant match supes' speed... in a slugfest supes goes down, if supes fights intelligently he can take it imo...

he can't hurt juggs, but i guess he could do the old 'throw em into the sun' routine...

neo has vast durability (although not as much as supes) and he also has telekinetic abilities, which play a significant role here...

the speed of thought surpasses the speed of anything in the universe, so there's his head start...

as for hulk's speed, he's been shown to dodge missiles and slap away bullets with his forearms so comparing that to speeding bullet supes, hulk has a big chance against him...

i have to get back to work, so i'll comment on jugs later

Originally posted by Up In Flames
neo has vast durability (although not as much as supes) and he also has telekinetic abilities, which play a significant role here...

the speed of thought surpasses the speed of anything in the universe, so there's his head start...

as for hulk's speed, he's been shown to dodge missiles and slap away bullets with his forearms so comparing that to speeding bullet supes, hulk has a big chance against him...

i have to get back to work, so i'll comment on jugs later

tk wont help him when supes can move faster than neo can manipulate the matrix around him... and how durable are you saying neo is?

no, it doesnt... superman moves fatser than thought, he has done several times...

im not saying hulk is slow, but superman is several times faster than the hulk...

😆 sorry, couldnt help it...

Neo's not super-durable. IIRC, a punch from one of the Merovingian's henchmen made him bleed. Neo wouldn't stand a chance.

Neo doesn't have powers in the real world, only in the Matrix. SO, unless Neo and Superman were in The Matrix, he'd have some chance, otherwise... Superman would destroy him like any other mortal.