Fantastic Four vs X-Men

Started by Sin I AM4 pages

I seen the respect thread NOT impressed. However I will concede to the faster mare durable. Agility? More skilled fighter? Highly questionable. Show instances where he has held his own against other powerhouses. He generally gets K.Oed. And as far as Forge pfffff....Reed would genetically create a better clone which could create better versions of the crap Forge has "yet" to think of

Originally posted by Grimm22
Pyslocke isnt beating Sue ❌

Sue takes out most of the team in the first 3 seconds 😉

Or...Psylocke takes out most of the FF in the first second. ✅

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I seen the respect thread NOT impressed. However I will concede to the faster mare durable. Agility? More skilled fighter? Highly questionable. Show instances where he has held his own against other powerhouses. He generally gets K.Oed. And as far as Forge pfffff....Reed would genetically create a better clone which could create better versions of the crap Forge has "yet" to think of

Me thinks you didn't look well enough. I don't recall the fighter's name, but Colossus was facing someone stronger than him, but he used his superior fighting skills and agility to put the other fighter down.

And yea, Colossus is by far more agile than Thing.

Y because you say so?......I know the pic you are referring to. Where Colossus porpells himself thru walls of the X-Mansion. All powerhouses have powerful leg muscles so thats not a good example. IF thats what your using as a basis of better agility.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Or...Psylocke takes out most of the FF in the first second. ✅

How?!?! 🤨

She isnt getting past Sue's force field ❌

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Reed is good. Forge, is better. He'd just create a device that kills only the FF. And don't laugh. He can do it. He's Forge. (<--Completely serious, by the way).

I really have to disagree with this.

You don't want to start compare the feats between Reed and Forge. Forge's power does not allow him to create ANYTHING he wishes, he has had problems with creations too.

Forge is prep monster.

Reed is prep GOD.

I think that X-Men take majority in non-prep, but in prep, they will be screwed in ways they can't even imagine.

Originally posted by Grimm22
How?!?! 🤨

She isnt getting past Sue's force field ❌

But...lemme guess. Sue's getting through Psylocke's forcefield? 🙄

And I'm curious. How is Sue's shield gonna stop telekinesis? 😕

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I really have to disagree with this.

You don't want to start compare the feats between Reed and Forge. Forge's power does not allow him to create ANYTHING he wishes, he has had problems with creations too.

Forge is prep monster.

Reed is prep GOD.

I think that X-Men take majority in non-prep, but in prep, they will be screwed in ways they can't even imagine.

Eh, okay. Agree to disagree, I guess. It's not as if the X-Men have asked Forge to build them a universe-destroying toaster or anything. Usually it's stuff like, "Forge, can you make a universal remote for us? Thanks." I mean, he's got the potential to make anything, it's part of his power.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Y because you say so?......I know the pic you are referring to. Where Colossus porpells himself thru walls of the X-Mansion. All powerhouses have powerful leg muscles so thats not a good example. IF thats what your using as a basis of better agility.

Clearly you know not what picture I'm referring to then. 😬

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Eh, okay. Agree to disagree, I guess. It's not as if the X-Men have asked Forge to build them a universe-destroying toaster or anything. Usually it's stuff like, "Forge, can you make a universal remote for us? Thanks." I mean, he's got the potential to make anything, it's part of his power.
The potential, yes, but he for example was not able to create a device to reverse the effects of his power remover. This is pretty much how his powers are described:
Forge is a mutant with an innate superhuman talent for invention - an intuitive genius, it is as natural as breathing for him.

It's the same thing with Reed. It's just his own mind, not powers. He has created things from stuff he has never seen before...he's amazed aliens with his creations, stopped godlike beings with devices he had created in half a hour, etc. Forge truly is not going to best Reed in his own game.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Y because you say so?......I know the pic you are referring to. Where Colossus porpells himself thru walls of the X-Mansion. All powerhouses have powerful leg muscles so thats not a good example. IF thats what your using as a basis of better agility.
This is the pic he is refering too. Colossus is faster and more agile than Thing is. I need to see scans of Thing jumpin in the air doing a flip then kicking somebody.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/ColossusandAntaeus.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/ColossusandAntaeus2.jpg(Notice the agilty)

More agility

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/ColossusandJuggernaut1022.jpg(Classic Juggernaut)
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossusagility.jpg

Colossus has even impressed Wolverine and Pyslocke with his speed for a big guy.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossusagilityandspeed.jpg(Pyslocke)
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/ColossusandWolverineXM242.jpg(Wolverine)

X-men take this, Pyslocke could end this fight very quickly if written right.

Grimm22 your extremely biased.

X-men win only because F4 was rated in the top 5 worst superhero movies. 😄

Where's this list of movies?whats on them?

Originally posted by What If...
Grimm22 your extremely biased.

X-men win only because F4 was rated in the top 5 worst superhero movies. 😄

Ouch.....that's below the belt.

Fantastic 4, Daredevil, and Cat woman are the only ones that come to mind...go google it.

Originally posted by What If...
Fantastic 4, Daredevil, and Cat woman are the only ones that come to mind...go google it.
Elektra has to be there also. That movie sucked @ss.

how can people say reed is better with prep than forge its forges damn mutant power to make anything

With prep Reed's a cosmic force...A virtual master of short-term prep. Only Thanos and Strange are his peers. Forge's prep is obviously incredible but it's still on the level of Batman and Tony Stark. Either of those 3 can build to take out just about any hero/villain. Reed, Thanos and Strange take out abstracts w/prep.

Reed.... Bah!!! top 3 in marvel are Thanos, Strange and Doom. Reed is a somewhat close 4th!