rise and fall of the shi'ar empire

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Jean did it when she didnt possess a fragment according to continuity so thats not right. However im not sure that issue will reveal what you want it to as writers make it clear that the Phoenix isnt returning to Rachel anytime soon. Shes A Phoenix. That in no way means she possesses the Phoenix Force.

When was this? Jean is the PF...so wouldn't she always possess it as of continuity?
Emma and the Cuckoos have used the Phoenix consciousness when they were possessed a fragment of it...the next issue might explain the role of the Sword of the Phoenix....for example maybe it does something to Phoenix Energy..i.e. Inhibits it...so we might get something out of it...

I mean the Shiar seem to think killing Rachel the normal way won't cut it(They go and get a special weapon to do the job)...so there has to be something about her....

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
When was this? Jean is the PF...so wouldn't she always possess it as of continuity?
Emma and the Cuckoos have used the Phoenix consciousness when they were possessed a fragment of it...the next issue might explain the role of the Sword of the Phoenix....for example maybe it does something to Phoenix Energy..i.e. Inhibits it...so we might get something out of it...

I mean the Shiar seem to think killing Rachel the normal way won't cut it(They go and get a special weapon to do the job)...so there has to be something about her....

Continuity has changed in recent years. When Jean was manifesting her powers in the firebird shape 6 years ago the 86 retcon was in place where Jean was NOT the Force, just someone the Force impersonated in the past and had a fondness for.

The rest of your post is speculation, but yeah we'll see what happens in Uncanny, although i really dont think its going to reveal what you want it to! 😉

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So Mike, Josh and I hung out today and went by the comic shop and looked at next week's Uncanny. I didn't notice any Jean mentionings at all, but it is Phoenix related, so...

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So, the Shi'Ar dude Korvus is a descedant of a man who was once the Phoenix and all that (I'm sorry...is it me, or is everyone/has everyone been the Phoenix?) so he has and can use the Blade of the Phoenix, which through some miracle of retcon, is imbued with the smallest fraction of the Phoenix Force. He plans to use it against Rachel and destroy her. As Josh pointed out, if such a thing had always existed, why did they never use it against Jean?

At any rate, Rachel and Xavier have a little fight because she feels that he is only using her since he doesnt have his powers anymore, and wants her to get better and control it and all of this. She talks about feeling 'them' out there, watching her; the same ones that killed her family and gave her that mark on her back. It glows gold when she talks about it.

At any rate, some other stuff happens that I don't remember and Korvus finds and attacks Rachel. He slams the blade down on her and the Phoenix inside of it and inside of her link together and they share memories. They realize the two of them are very similar, both having had their entire families destroyed by the Shi'Ar due to being in the line of the Phoenix, all save themselves, all the horrors they've endured, et cetera. He asks her what she is doing and she says it is the Blade, not her.

When the psychic thingy is over, the blade loses what it had inside it and it joins with Rachel. Korvus says she took it, but she says that it took her. She was touched by the Phoenix, and she says that it remembers her and likes her. Her eye symbol and back begin to glow blue like the blade did instead of gold, and she is now one with this smallest fraction of the Phoenix Force.

So yeah. I don't see why they don't just call her Phoenix since she apparently has it now. And don't give me that "its just a fraction of it" stuff, either. A fraction of infinity is still infinity, correct? I don't like it, but some of you may jump for joy over it. But that's how it goes.

Thoughts?

^I am confused.

So the blade of the Phoenix is some energy sword that kills Phoenix or something?

And since when did descendants of Phoenixes possess a fragment of teh Phoenix?

Originally posted by eternitygoddess
^I am confused.

So the blade of the Phoenix is some energy sword that kills Phoenix or something?

And since when did descendants of Phoenixes possess a fragment of teh Phoenix?

Not exactly...the blade was owned by a Shiar person....who was once the Phoenix...the blade contains a fragment of the PF..and the blade can only be weilded by Phoenixes or people with the same bloodline as a Phoenix...

arggggggggg!!!!!!!

i'm so lost

comics must come out late in the philippines

Just read the last one... i dunno... i think i'll drop it after this arc... warpath and darwin had the potential to be great... i just dont see it happening, and to be honest im sick and tired of uber mutants in marvel...

i hope gladiator gets his hands on vulcan and f*cks him up, so to speak... 😬

Originally posted by pr1983
Just read the last one... i dunno... i think i'll drop it after this arc... warpath and darwin had the potential to be great... i just dont see it happening, and to be honest im sick and tired of uber mutants in marvel...

i hope gladiator gets his hands on vulcan and f*cks him up, so to speak... 😬

Couldn't agree with you more with the first bit...I hope Rachel Grey dies....a horrible death....

As for the second part of your post....I predict Kallark and the rest of the Imperial Guard go down in 10 panels... 😛

You would... 😛

i personally don't like the whole idea that men can bond with the phonix

the phoenix force is female after all

Originally posted by pr1983
You would... 😛

Heh...just remember I predicted it... 😄

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Heh...just remember I predicted it... 😄

and you've undoubtedly seen the preview image of vulcan choking glads... 😗

Originally posted by pr1983
and you've undoubtedly seen the preview image of vulcan choking glads... 😗

Course I haven't 😏...okay fine...I still predict the 10 panel thing....

And I'm also guessing the Imperial Guard are going to be humiliated....more so then ever.... 😛

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Course I haven't 😏...okay fine...I still predict the 10 panel thing....

And I'm also guessing the Imperial Guard are going to be humiliated....more so then ever.... 😛

i never liked gladiator, in fact, i pretty much despise him, vulcan is slowly catching up...

gone were the days when x-men didnt need uber characters to carry a story...

Originally posted by pr1983
i never liked gladiator, in fact, i pretty much despise him, vulcan is slowly catching up...

gone were the days when x-men didnt need uber characters to carry a story...

Exactly...except I don't think Brubaker or Carey understand that concept....niether does Claremont...who suprise is still on their pay roll...

yeah... the only one who seems to have any understanding is whedon, and even he has had danger and ord, though both had their asses handed to them eventually by x-men...

tis a worrying trend... and as for marvel's payroll, marvel is the manchester united of the comic world, always in it for the money, not for the craft...

Originally posted by pr1983
yeah... the only one who seems to have any understanding is whedon, and even he has had danger and ord, though both had their asses handed to them eventually by x-men...

tis a worrying trend... and as for marvel's payroll, marvel is the manchester united of the comic world, always in it for the money, not for the craft...

Heh...who do you support? Hopefully not Liverpool..

I actually support man u, i'm just pissed off with them hoarding all their money and not spending it where they should (i.e. world class players), but still whoring themselves out all over the world just so they can be richer and richer...

we could learn some things from abramovitch...

what issue d'ya reckon the x-men and vulcan will meet?

within the next four or five hopefully...