Are people who take the bible literally simple minded?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I was watching the end of a show about the antichrist on the Discovery channel, and there was this guy who made the statement that people who take Revelations literally are simple minded people. He clamed that they cannot understand complex coded imagery, and they want it to be simple. Did you see the show, and what do you think?

I haven't seen it, unfortunately, but that sounds very interesting.

A lot of radical Christians would fall into this category, as well as a lot of non-Christians too, who use such simpicity to contradict it.

😆 You said I was going to your hell, thats Judgement. Also, incineration is a crime in most nations. You also threatened me with that.

Originally posted by Alliance
😆 You said I was going to your hell, thats Judgement. Also, incineration is a crime in most nations. You also threatened me with that.

Ecclesiastes 8:5-6
Whoso keepeth the commandment shall feel no evil thing: and a wise man's heart discerneth both time and judgment. Because to every purpose there is a time and judgment, therefore the misery of man is great upon him.

Look, I can find my own Bible to argue with. I don't think anyone in the forum wants more quote-posts.

Originally posted by Alliance
Look, I can find my own Bible to argue with. I don't think anyone in the forum wants more quote-posts.

Psalm 19: 7
The law of the Lord if perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.

Yes, delusions of granduer for the masses.

LISTEN to me! DO whatever i SAY. You can be wise!

Systems of control. Systems of control.

Proverbs 1:5
A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels

Originally posted by Alliance
Look, I can find my own Bible to argue with.

Originally posted by Alliance
Look, I can find my own Bible to argue with. I don't think anyone in the forum wants more quote-posts.

Proverbs 26:4
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

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Originally posted by Alliance
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Bible states, in several places, “Only the fool has said in his heart, There is no God.”

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Bible states, in several places, “Only the fool has said in his heart, There is no God.”

REsearch has shown, that the more educated individuals, the less religious they get.

In Ancient Rome, the more people built academies and schools, the less they went to temples. There was a record number of people refusing to go to temples, at the hight of the education in ancient rome.

If God gave you a brain, he would be offended if you didn't use it.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
REsearch has shown, that the more educated individuals, the less religious they get.

In Ancient Rome, the more people built academies and schools, the less they went to temples. There was a record number of people refusing to go to temples, at the hight of the education in ancient rome.

If God gave you a brain, he would be offended if you didn't use it.

Dinosaurs are referred to in several Bible books. The book of Job describes two dinosaurs. One is described in chapter 40 starting at verse 15, and the other in chapter 41 starting at verse 1. We think you will agree that 1½ chapters about dinosaurs is a lot—since most people do not even realize that they are mentioned in the Bible.

The Bible frequently refers to the great number of stars in the heavens. Here are two examples.

Genesis 22:17
Blessing I will bless you, and multiplying I will multiply your descendants as the stars of the heaven and as the sand which is on the seashore; and your descendants shall possess the gate of their enemies.

Jeremiah 33:22
“As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, nor the sand of the sea measured, so will I multiply the descendants of David My servant and the Levites who minister to Me.”

Even today, scientists admit that they do not know how many stars there are. Only about 3,000 can be seen with the naked eye. We have seen estimates of 10^21 stars—which is a lot of stars

The Bible also says that each star is unique.

1 Corinthians 15:41
There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.
All stars look alike to the naked eye.* Even when seen through a telescope, they seem to be just points of light. However, analysis of their light spectra reveals that each is unique and different from all others.

The Bible describes the precision of movement in the universe.

Jeremiah 31:35,36
Thus says the LORD,
Who gives the sun for a light by day,
The ordinances of the moon and the stars for a light by night,
Who disturbs the sea,
And its waves roar
(The LORD of hosts is His name):
“If those ordinances depart
From before Me, says the LORD,
Then the seed of Israel shall also cease
From being a nation before Me forever.”

The Bible describes the suspension of the Earth in space.

Job 26:7
He stretches out the north over empty space;
He hangs the earth on nothing.

The Bible describes the circulation of the atmosphere.

Ecclesiastes 1:6
The wind goes toward the south,
And turns around to the north;
The wind whirls about continually,
And comes again on its circuit.

The Bible includes some principles of fluid dynamics.

Job 28:25
To establish a weight for the wind,
And apportion the waters by measure.
The fact that air has weight was proven scientifically only about 300 years ago. The relative weights of air and water are needed for the efficient functioning of the world’s hydrologic cycle, which in turn sustains life on the earth.

The book of Leviticus describes the value of blood.

Leviticus 17:11
‘For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul.’
The blood carries water and nourishment to every cell, maintains the body’s temperature, and removes the waste material of the body’s cells. The blood also carries oxygen from the lungs throughout the body. In 1616, William Harvey discovered that blood circulation is the key factor in physical life—confirming what the Bible revealed 3,000 years earlier.

The Bible describes biogenesis and the stability of each kind of living organism.

Genesis 1:11,12
Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed, and the fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth”; and it was so. And the earth brought forth grass, the herb that yields seed according to its kind, and the tree that yields fruit, whose seed is in itself according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.

Genesis 1:21
So God created great sea creatures and every living thing that moves, with which the waters abounded, according to their kind, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.

Genesis 1:25
And God made the beast of the earth according to its kind, cattle according to its kind, and everything that creeps on the earth according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.
The phrase “according to its kind” occurs repeatedly, stressing the reproductive integrity of each kind of animal and plant. Today we know this occurs because all of these reproductive systems are programmed by their genetic codes.

The Bible describes the chemical nature of flesh.

Genesis 2:7
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

Genesis 3:19
In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread
Till you return to the ground,
For out of it you were taken;
For dust you are,
And to dust you shall return.

It is a proven fact that a person’s mental and spiritual health is strongly correlated with physical health. The Bible revealed this to us with these statements written by King Solomon about 950 BC.

Proverbs 12:4
An excellent wife is the crown of her husband,
But she who causes shame is like rottenness in his bones.

Proverbs 14:30
A sound heart is life to the body,
But envy is rottenness to the bones.

Proverbs 15:30
The light of the eyes rejoices the heart,
And a good report makes the bones healthy.

Proverbs 16:24
Pleasant words are like a honeycomb,
Sweetness to the soul and health to the bones.

Proverbs 17:22
A merry heart does good, like medicine,
But a broken spirit dries the bones.

We have cave paintings and other evidence that people inhabited caves. The Bible also describes cave men.

Job 30:5,6
They were driven out from among men,
They shouted at them as at a thief.
They had to live in the clefts of the valleys,
In caves of the earth and the rocks.
Note that these were not ape-men, but descendants of those who scattered from Babel. They were driven from the community by those tribes who competed successfully for the more desirable regions of the earth. Then for some reason they deteriorated mentally, physically, and spiritually

The bible includes reasonably complete descriptions of the hydrologic cycle.

Psalm 135:7
He causes the vapors to ascend from the ends of the earth;
He makes lightning for the rain;
He brings the wind out of His treasuries.

Jeremiah 10:13
When He utters His voice,
There is a multitude of waters in the heavens:
“And He causes the vapors to ascend from the ends of the earth.
He makes lightning for the rain,
He brings the wind out of His treasuries.”
In these verses you can see several phases of the hydrologic cycle—the worldwide processes of evaporation, translation aloft by atmospheric circulation, condensation with electrical discharges, and precipitation.

Job 36:27-29
For He draws up drops of water,
Which distill as rain from the mist,
Which the clouds drop down
And pour abundantly on man.
Indeed, can anyone understand the spreading of clouds,
The thunder from His canopy?
This simple verse has remarkable scientific insight. The drops of water which eventually pour down as rain first become vapor and then condense to tiny liquid water droplets in the clouds. These finally coalesce into drops large enough to overcome the updrafts that suspend them in the air.

The Bible describes the recirculation of water.

Ecclesiastes 1:7
All the rivers run into the sea,
Yet the sea is not full;
To the place from which the rivers come,
There they return again.

Isaiah 55:10
For as the rain comes down, and the snow from heaven,
And do not return there,
But water the earth,
And make it bring forth and bud,
That it may give seed to the sower
And bread to the eater,

The Bible refers to the surprising amount of water that can be held as condensation in clouds.

Job 26:8
He binds up the water in His thick clouds,
Yet the clouds are not broken under it.

Job 37:11
Also with moisture He saturates the thick clouds;
He scatters His bright clouds.

Hydrothermal vents are described in two books of the Bible written before 1400BC—more than 3,000 years before their discovery by science.

Genesis 7:11
In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

Job 38:16
Have you entered the springs of the sea?
Or have you walked in search of the depths?
We discuss the “fountains of the great deep” further in our Creation Versus Evolution page.

The Bible describes the Earth’s crust.

Jeremiah 31:37
Thus says the LORD:
“If heaven above can be measured,
And the foundations of the earth searched out beneath,
I will also cast off all the seed of Israel
For all that they have done, says the LORD.”
Although some scientists claim that they have now measured the size of the universe, it is interesting to note that every human attempt to drill through the earth’s crust to the plastic mantle beneath has, thus far, ended in failure.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
REsearch has shown, that the more educated individuals, the less religious they get.

In Ancient Rome, the more people built academies and schools, the less they went to temples. There was a record number of people refusing to go to temples, at the hight of the education in ancient rome.

If God gave you a brain, he would be offended if you didn't use it.

You wanted proof:

The Bible described the shape of the earth centuries before people thought that the earth was spherical.

Isaiah 40:22
It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain,
And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.
The word translated “circle” here is the Hebrew word chuwg which is also translated “circuit,” or “compass”. That is, it indicates something spherical, rounded, or arched—not something that is flat or square.

The book of Isaiah was written sometime between 740 and 680 BC. This is at least 300 years before Aristotle suggested that the earth might be a sphere in this book On the Heavens.

This brings up an important historical note related to this topic. Many people are aware of the conflict between Galileo and the Roman Catholic Pope, Paul V. After publishing A Dialogue on the Two Principal Systems of the World, Galileo was summoned to Rome, where he was forced to renounce his findings. (At that time, “theologians” of the Roman Catholic Church maintained that the Earth was the center of the universe, and to assert otherwise was deemed heretical.)

We could not find any place in the Bible that claims that the Earth is flat, or that it is the center of the universe. History shows that this conflict, which took place at the time of the Inquisition, was part of a power struggle. As a result, scientific and biblical knowledge became casualties—an effect we still feel to this day.

The Bible suggests the presence of nuclear processes like those we associate with nuclear weaponry. This is certainly not something that could have been explained in 67 AD using known scientific principles.

2 Peter 3:10
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.

The television is a practical device that uses electromagnetic waves. The Bible contains passages that describe something like television—something that allows everyone on earth see a single event.

Matthew 24:30
Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Revelation 11:9-11
Then those from the peoples, tribes, tongues, and nations will see their dead bodies three-and-a-half days, and not allow their dead bodies to be put into graves. And those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them, make merry, and send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth. Now after the three-and-a-half days the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them.
Things In The Bible That Science Can Not Explain
The purpose of this page is not to explain what a great science text the Bible is, but to show that it is consistent with scientific facts. Still, the Bible mentions some things that we can not explain. Yet, if God is really God, He should have the ability to do some things we can not explain.

In the last 100 years scientists discovered many proofs that confirm the Bible’s accuracy. Since these proofs support the accuracy of the text we can understand scientifically, it makes sense to trust the Bible’s text that we can not yet understand.

I read only the last reply to this thread.......but

You wanted proof:

The Bible described the shape of the earth centuries before people thought that the earth was spherical.

what have you been smoking? Humans have always know the shape of the earth......since the beginning of recorded civilization and probably before then. Ancient temples from Egypt to Peru to Mexico all have heavenly alignments based on the earth's spherical shape, and the temple builders knowledge of that. The first person in pre-history who gazed at the night sky and realized the moon was another celestial body and watched the earth's shadow cast upon it as the earth moved between the moon and sun creating a lunar eclipse knew the earth was spherical.

as for the original topic.....

yes. they have a mental disorder. any person who base their life, actions and beliefs upon a collection of books written by unknown authors from a distant primitive past are howling mad.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
I read only the last reply to this thread.......but

what have you been smoking? Humans have always know the shape of the earth......since the beginning of recorded civilization and probably before then. Ancient temples from Egypt to Peru to Mexico all have heavenly alignments based on the earth's spherical shape, and the temple builders knowledge of that. The first person in pre-history who gazed at the night sky and realized the moon was another celestial body and watched the earth's shadow cast upon it as the earth moved between the moon and sun creating a lunar eclipse knew the earth was spherical.

as for the original topic.....

yes. they have a mental disorder. any person who base their life, actions and beliefs upon a collection of books written by unknown authors from a distant primitive past are howling mad.

Good to know. And before Abraham was I am; God is alpha and omega; he is the beginning and the end. He was there from the start and there till the end.

And why even both posting if you haven't bothered ready everything? And no; all those cultures you spoke of based their alignments with the sky.

The shape of Egyptian pyramids is thought to represent the primordial mound from which the Egyptians believed the earth was created. The shape is also thought to be representative of the descending rays of the sun, and most pyramids were faced with polished, highly reflective white limestone, in order to give them a brilliant appearance when viewed from a distance. Pyramids were often also named in ways that made reference to solar luminescence. For example, the formal name of the Bent Pyramid at Dahshur was The Southern Shining Pyramid, and that of Senwosret at el-Lahun was Senwosret is Shining.

While it is generally agreed that pyramids were burial monuments, there is continued disagreement on the particular theological principles that might have given rise to them. One theory that has gained a degree of acceptance is that they were designed as a type of "resurrection machine"; the Egyptians believed the dark area of the night sky around which the stars appear to revolve was the physical gateway into the heavens, and one of the narrow shafts that extends from the main burial chamber through the entire body of the Great Pyramid points directly towards the centre of this part of the sky. This suggests the pyramid may have been designed to serve as a means to magically launch the deceased pharaoh's soul directly into the abode of the gods.

Most Egyptian pyramids were built (with the exception of the small step pyramid at Zawyet el-Maiyitin, near Al Minya) on the west bank of the Nile, which as the site of the setting sun was associated with the realm of the dead in Egyptian mythology.

And why even both posting if you haven't bothered ready everything? And no; all those cultures you spoke of based their alignments with the sky.

1. I bother to post without reading other people's replies because this thread asks a question. I give my answer. I know you being a Christian, this might be hard to understand......but I'm not a sheep. I don't need to know what other people's opinions or answers are to any given question as it does not influence my own. If somebody asks me a question of any kind, I answer it. I don't take a poll and give an answer that most agrees with what others, a church or my parents think or say.

2. Incorrect. the allignments are based upon the movements of cellestial bodies over a spherical sky. The ancients could chart these movements and know exactly where stars were going to be at any given time........including our sun......which is why we have the numerous temples in South Amercia charting it's movement to specific days of the year. Do your math. The cellestial bodies would not line up at any of these sites if the earth was not a sphere......not even remotely. Even the great pyramid of Egypt was plotted using knowledge of our spherical earth. A column was erected at what was to be the very center of the pyramid.......they charted it's shadow moving in a semicircle (half sphere).....then mirrored that semicircle to create an entire circle.........using that circle to align the sides, making sure the pinnicale would come to rest exactly where the collumn they had used to chart it once stood. your knowledge on ancient civilizations seems to be a bit lacking.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
REsearch has shown, that the more educated individuals, the less religious they get.

In Ancient Rome, the more people built academies and schools, the less they went to temples. There was a record number of people refusing to go to temples, at the hight of the education in ancient rome.

If God gave you a brain, he would be offended if you didn't use it.

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And ESB, any fool can see that there are many stars in the skies. When you write fiction, you base it off real life. Maybe sometimes there are starless skies, but not often.

The Bible is NOT scientific.