Originally posted by MetalmanxShe can in recent appearances, but for the purpose of this vs no telepathy.
She can't use her psychic abilities when in diamond form, correct?If that is so, then Cage kicks her bitchy ass. 😛
I don't really see him being able to hurt her.. 😬 She's a solid, and iirc flawless now, diamond...
Isn't Luke Cage in the 25 ton range? Emma Frost is in the 50 ton range(A lot of people have the idea that she can lift 75 tons...don't know where that idea came from...I really want to know 😄) and then there's the flawless diamond durability...in her diamond form she becomes immune to pain(Emotion),dehydration, hunger and fatigue...
Yay she actually has a chance against this person!!
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
She can in recent appearances, but for the purpose of this vs no telepathy.I don't really see him being able to hurt her.. 😬 She's a solid, and iirc flawless now, diamond...
No no, I know that she is incredibly durable and strong. Don't get me wrong. But without her telepathy, this is definitely Cage's match. He's stronger (Emma has NEVER shown me any super high degree of strength, I'd maybe put her in the 5-10 ton region, if even that) and a far better fighter. Possibly even more durable, who knows. I just don't see any way that Emma could have an advantage against Cage, but I can see more of a chance of Cage being her superior in this fight.
Originally posted by MetalmanxShe could probably just stand there and outlast him though... 😬
No no, I know that she is incredibly durable and strong. Don't get me wrong. But without her telepathy, this is definitely Cage's match. He's stronger (Emma has NEVER shown me any super high degree of strength, I'd maybe put her in the 5-10 ton region, if even that) and a far better fighter. Possibly even more durable, who knows. I just don't see any way that Emma could have an advantage against Cage, but I can see more of a chance of Cage being her superior in this fight.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
In fairness, I've never seen her lift anything around the 50 ton range though...It's hard to put telepaths in vs because they can mindrape most anyone...
True 😆 , the handbook places her at level 5 (50 tons) the funny thing is I only ever recall her using her strength to fling people. But we're probably not using handbooks...
Her durability and stamina are better then his though.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
She could probably just stand there and outlast him though... 😬
Outlast him into what exactly? Fatigue? Doesn't Cage also have superhuman endurance?
But fine, let's say that she outlasts him and he fatigues. Then what? She's going to all of a sudden be able to damage/hurt him when he's tired? Fatigued or not, I don't see her able to hurt him in the slightest. He has more of a chance of damaging her than she does him.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Outlast him into what exactly? Fatigue? Doesn't Cage also have superhuman endurance?But fine, let's say that she outlasts him and he fatigues. Then what? She's going to all of a sudden be able to damage/hurt him when he's tired? Fatigued or not, I don't see her able to hurt him in the slightest. He has more of a chance of damaging her than she does him.
Diamond finger nails can do a lot of damage to materials that aren't of the same durability.
😂 I can just imagine Luke Cage in a catfight with Emma... claws out...
Originally posted by MetalmanxShe doesn't need to eat, drink, breathe etc. though... she doesn't feel pain...
Outlast him into what exactly? Fatigue? Doesn't Cage also have superhuman endurance?But fine, let's say that she outlasts him and he fatigues. Then what? She's going to all of a sudden be able to damage/hurt him when he's tired? Fatigued or not, I don't see her able to hurt him in the slightest. He has more of a chance of damaging her than she does him.
If she can take Colossus' punches and just get up Luke Cage is doing nothing to hurt her...
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
True 😆 , the handbook places her at level 5 (50 tons) the funny thing is I only ever recall her using her strength to fling people. But we're probably not using handbooks...Her durability and stamina are better then his though.
yeah no one ever agrees with the handbooks for some reason. 🙁
anyway this is a good match up. Emma is gonna have to do something incredibly damaging to Cage cos he heals quick. I would go for Cage just now.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
😂 I can just imagine Luke Cage in a catfight with Emma... claws out...
She doesn't need to eat, drink, breathe etc. though... she doesn't feel pain...If she can take Colossus' punches and just get up Luke Cage is doing nothing to hurt her...
when was the last time colossus punched her?
Originally posted by The PictColossus used her as an impromptu weapon punching her into Danger v.1. Fighting for their lives I don't see why he wouldn't go all out if he knows she can take it. She gets back up pretty much immediately. She was the last one standing against it and it had to blackmail her to knock her out.
when was the last time colossus punched her?
I'm not really sure I understand something here. Did some crazy upgrade take place with Emma? Cuz she's not strong enough to even scratch Cage, let alone cause him any damage at all.
And yes, when did Colossus punch Emma? Was it all out?
If he can't damage her and she can't damage him...wouldn't that be a stalemate?
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Colossus used her as an impromptu weapon punching her into Danger v.1. Fighting for their lives I don't see why he wouldn't go all out if he knows she can take it. She gets back up pretty much immediately. She was the last one standing against it and it had to blackmail her to knock her out.
he shoved her into danger, he never punched her