Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Words that can be offensive:
Cracker
Nip
Kraut
GreaserHowever words like:
Black
Anglo
Oriental
Huns
Latino
Are not consider offensive.
My understanding is that, these days, "Oriental" is considered offensive and "Asian" is the preferred term by those of Asian descent. But maybe that's just in NYC.
Originally posted by Draco69
"Are you from the Midwest"😬
Seriously, what's so offensive about a ghetto? Is it a bad place equivalent to hell?
Are blacks so ashamed that some of them maybe from a poor neighborhood that the word "ghetto" is seen as a personal attack towards their race?
And dude, open your eyes. "Ghetto" is not exclusive to black people, in your own magical fairyland.
ANYONE lives in a ghetto. White people, Latino people, black people, gay people, Arab people, etc.
Please....
Because socially, the term "ghetto" is cooralated with being "black" or "hispanic".
Technically, is ghetto a racist term? No..there have been Jewish and Italian ghettos, and there still are.
Now, why is the term "ghetto" cooralated with being black or hispanic? Because the media hyped it up to be.
That is why if you refer to a black or hispanic as ghetto, they will not take it in the literal sense, as simply where they are from, they will take it as a racial epithet since it's used that way in all forms of media, and between each other, and used as that kind of term by many white people.
As for you question, "Is the ghetto really that bad?"...YES ✅ the ghettos in which most blacks and hispanics live are full of crime, poverty, poor education, and daily strain. You can't blame someone for thier locale sensitivity when these kind of things occur commonly.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Because socially, the term "ghetto" is cooralated with being "black" or "hispanic".
By whom? Here's news for you. There are far more Asian immigrants in the "ghetto".
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Technically, is ghetto a racist term? No..there have been Jewish and Italian ghettos, and there still are.
And you agree with me. "Ghetto" is not racist. At all. It would be far more suitable to claim the word "ghetto" is racist against Italians because they have lived there for far longer than blacks....
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Now, why is the term "ghetto" cooralated with being black or hispanic? Because the media hyped it up to be.
That and opportunist "black" advocate groups have touted the horn of "Blacks=Ghetto" for the last few years...
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
That is why if you refer to a black or hispanic as ghetto, they will not take it in the literal sense, as simply where they are from, they will take it as a racial epithet since it's used that way in all forms of media, and between each other, and used as that kind of term by many white people.
So, what? You're going to give in to the media hype? Are you going to give into the "blacks are criminals" spin they have to. Let's not....
As you said it yourself, "ghetto" is not exclusive to African-Americans and never has been. Nor is it to Latino Americans.
Why give into such garbage and strengthen the gap between races with such prejudicial misnomers?
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
As for you question, "Is the ghetto really that bad?"...YES ✅ the ghettos in which most blacks and hispanics live are full of crime, poverty, poor education, and daily strain. You can't blame someone for thier locale sensitivity when these kind of things occur commonly.
Than they really shouldn't glorify it in gangsta rap songs....
Originally posted by Draco69
By whom? Here's news for you. There are far more Asian immigrants in the "ghetto".
Not in "today's ghetto". Original definition of ghettos are areas populated with primarily one racial or ethnic group. However, today's ghetto is automatically coorelated with poverty. There are far more impoverous Blacks and Hispanics, than Asians, and the majority of Asians live in New York alone. There are far more ghettos all over the United States, teeming with poor blacks and hispanics.
Originally posted by Draco69
And you agree with me. "Ghetto" is not racist. At all. It would be far more suitable to claim the word "ghetto" is racist against Italians because they have lived there for far longer than blacks....
The original term of the word "ghetto" is not racist, but it BECAME a racist term over time, that is what you don't get. 👇
No, it would not be suitable to refer to "ghetto" as racist against Italians, because there are far more wealthy Italians than blacks who occupy most ghettos.
Originally posted by Draco69
That and opportunist "black" advocate groups have touted the horn of "Blacks=Ghetto" for the last few years...
So has everyone else. Accept it...the meaning of the word has had a transformation. If you want to argue that the original term of ghetto is not racist, then I'd agree with you, but the present meaning IS racist.
Originally posted by Draco69
So, what? You're going to give in to the media hype? Are you going to give into the "blacks are criminals" spin they have to. Let's not....As you said it yourself, "ghetto" is not exclusive to African-Americans and never has been. Nor is it to Latino Americans.
Why give into such garbage and strengthen the gap between races with such prejudicial misnomers?
I am against widening the gaps, but you seem to miss the point. This is not about idealogy, this is about what's happening NOW....
Originally posted by Draco69
Than they really shouldn't glorify it in gangsta rap songs....
Agreed, but your missing the point...
The term "ghetto" originally means an area which consists primarily of one racial or ethnic group.
Today, by popular standards, ghetto now means "shithole" , ghetto is automatically coorelated with poverty, and unfortunately the majority of the impoverous who live in these ghettos happen to be black and hispanic.
You can't just act a black or hispanic who lives in a poor area "Are you from the ghetto", like you mentioned before. That is completely inappropriate and they will take it as racist, regardless of whether or not ghetto actually is a racist term. Why couldn't you just ask "are you from [enter town name here]?"
Originally posted by MindshipNope...it's also in L.A.
My understanding is that, these days, "Oriental" is considered offensive and "Asian" is the preferred term by those of Asian descent. But maybe that's just in NYC.
Originally posted by botankus😆 i'm your dingleberry.
I believe it's "dingleberry."
To be fair, whether or not a term is racist depends on the precise context and intent.
If someone uses a racial slur in an ironic way, there's no racism going on. The term itself can't be racist divorced from any racist intent.
Additionally, if someone uses a word such as 'white' in a racist manner, with racist intent, then it's racist in that instance.
Words don't have a concrete meaning that is independent of usage.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Technically, is ghetto a racist term? No..there have been Jewish and Italian ghettos, and there still are.As for you question, "Is the ghetto really that bad?"...YES ✅ the ghettos in which most blacks and hispanics live are full of crime, poverty, poor education, and daily strain. You can't blame someone for thier locale sensitivity when these kind of things occur commonly.
I love it when people ask themselves questions.
As for racist teminolgy, I'll go with what VVD said, but I'll add some black nigg*r bells and white crack*r tassels.
As it's been stated before, the whole racist statement and its intent is completely upon the person (persons) that made it and continue to make it.
I grew up in a mostly black neighbourhood in the US and I'm not privvy to say which. But I assure you I know when someone's making a racist statement within my immediate prescence and like the rest of you I don't like it.
You've all used many a word to describe what is and what isn't but let me say that even the nicest things said in a different manner can mean a TOTALLY different thing.
So it's not until you hear it from one persons mouth to another that you really understand what is TRULY racist and what is not.
Originally posted by DragonWoman
As it's been stated before, the whole racist statement and its intent is completely upon the person (persons) that made it and continue to make it.I grew up in a mostly black neighbourhood in the US and I'm not privvy to say which. But I assure you I know when someone's making a racist statement within my immediate prescence and like the rest of you I don't like it.
You've all used many a word to describe what is and what isn't but let me say that even the nicest things said in a different manner can mean a TOTALLY different thing.
So it's not until you hear it from one persons mouth to another that you really understand what is TRULY racist and what is not.
You sound/read pretty racist. Are you eating right now?
No I'm not eating right now and I have my reasons if I am however I pride myself on being open minded so I'll take in your opinion and use it to better myself.
Oh, that and I wanna say something else too.
It depends on where you live, how you where raised and what kind of atmosphere you've been exposed to if you're a 'racist' or not.
Take into account what others have had to experience in their lives and don't be so judgemental upon others.
Reading and saying something outloud is totally different so I hope all that I'm saying isnt coming across in a negative light because I didn't mean it to be like that.