lol what language do u think im speaking? as i say read it before u quote it, i am not a fool and here it is in ur "English standard"
take a hammer with 1 hand and beat something, lets say a brick.
good right?
now hold the hammer with 2 hands and bash a brick of the same density . lets say the power of the blast with 1 hand is 100 newtowns
it will be 200 with 2 hands am i correct?
heres a little bit of simpler physics u should learn, hey u asked me to explain it properly and so here i am doing so 🙂
I'm about to hand you your ass, Young ESB Vader.
Originally posted by ESB Vader
i'm sorry but with his ability only exile can beat him, what? lukes a whole in the force?
Luke and his students have demonstrated the ability to remove themselves from the Force. So, how exactly is Nihilus going to drain something that basically isn't there?
Oh? He won't? The Exile isn't the only one who can beat him. Deal with it, accept it, and live with it, hun.
sorry but nihilus vs NJO luke thread came out a year ago started by me and it came out nihilus wins hands down unless luke strikes with his green lightning first.
Hey guess what, you smart guy you, a friggin' year ago people thought Revan would beat the entire PT Council at the same time. Please.
I mean really, a year ago everyone over exaggerated the KOTOR and TOTJ character's powers. Revan beating the entire PT Council alone? Haha. Naga Sadow's "apprentices" (not that he even had any) threw stars around? Hahaha, Naga Sadow can't even do that.
My favorite quote:
"How is that going to help him against people who play tennis with stars?".
A year ago established jack shit.
and using 1 hand is good? why do u think count dooku uses 1 hand? because he is good? duh.
Oh? So by your absurd, and absolutely flawed logic - everyone who uses two hands must be good because people like Luke, Anakin, and so on use two hands!
Seriously, you have honestly showed that you are not capable of any logical reasonings whatsoever. I'd be surprised if you know what I just said, given I can tell you're in the age group of 10-13 at most. And I'm not insulting you with that, I'm just saying there's things that you won't be able to comprehend until you're like 2-5 years older.
and luke remove himself from the force? then nihilus uses lightning or w/e.
1.) Prove Nihilus knows Force lightning.
2.) Force lightning has been resisted by vastly inferior Force users. See: Obi-Wan in AOTC against Dooku. See: Maul against Mgheela.
Luke is literally the strongest character in Star Wars, he knows things Nihilus never even heard of, he has defenses for anything an inferior Force user can throw at him.
3.) Luke would toast Nihilus before a spark even left his hand.
and what do u mean "remove himself from the force" wouldnt doing so immobalise him?
Uh, no. He literally does just that. He cannot be detected, and so on. Nihilus won't be able to drain him.
and yes exile is the only 1 who can finish him and this thread is my opinions of how nihilus can win, i dont expect any1 to agree with it.
No, the Exile is not the only one who can beat him. Quit treating your opinion as fact. It's not established fact the Exile is the only one who can win, quite the opposite of what you're saying.
A flawed, and a horribly put together opinion does not equal fact.
and didnt kreia say "there r techniques in the force where there are no defense"?
Sadly, Kreia doesn't even know Luke Skywalker. There were techniques and defenses that were, apparently, developed. There may have been no current defense during the KOTOR era, but that doesn't mean there is no defense period. Especially given there's a 4000 year gap between the movie/post-ROTJ era and KOTOR.
i dont know advent if u really listened to the conversations in the game.
I have listened to them, you're just taking them too far out of context, and not listening to logical reasoning.
lol what language do u think im speaking?
Noobenese would be my best guess.
DUH and this is not horrible logic please read and dont babble bull sh!t
You do show horrible logic, and so far, you're the only one "babbling bullshit". Btw, the "simple physics" lesson you gave didn't even apply to what was actual called horrible at all.
Anyways, your logic is this: Dooku uses one handed saber combat, therefore since Nihilus uses one handed saber combat, he must be good.
That logic is completely, and 100% fallacious. Look at it this way: Person X uses one hand to shoot a gun, and X is a very good shooter and extremely accurate, now there's Person Y - he also uses one hand to shoot a gun, but I've never actually seen Y shoot with it. Should I assume that because X is good shooting with one hand, that Y is as well?
Of course not! To assume such would, as I said, be completely fallacious given I've never actually seen Y shoot and I have no idea if he is good, I only know he uses one hand.
Same concept applies, that was probably a bit off, but you should get the point. Just because X is good at something, doesn't mean Y is just based on the fact he holds it the same way.
An in-universe example would be like me saying since Anakin, Luke, Yoda, etc. use two hands when wielding a lightsaber that Zett Jukassa is a saber god.
well i get ur point bout the 1 handed thing.
ok and nihilus can beat luke if he strikes from a distance and provided luke doesnt know of his presence and it also depends who makes the first move. luke = he win, nihilus make the first move = then he wins.
luke can defeat nihilus knowing what hes up against and comes with a battle plan.
and kreia not knowing luke? its obvious but a 4000 year gap. and cmon many tecniques in the force and in lightsaber combat were forgotten over that time period . lots of them. just like tulaks lightsaber style
im not being bias or anything but look at it this way.
any1 in SW can defeat any1, jedi sith or not as long as they know what they r up against and come out with a solution. that seems unlikely but its possible
and heres a video to prove to you nihilus uses lightning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IobIhctxRXg
i suggest u watch it.
Damn, ESB. I just handed you your ass, and you come back for more. You truly are a Nihilus fanboy/incompetant.
ok and nihilus can beat luke if he strikes from a distance and provided luke doesnt know of his presence
What do you mean "Luke doesn't know of his presence"?
and it also depends who makes the first move. luke = he win, nihilus make the first move = then he wins.
No, Luke wins. Luke is faster than Nihilus, stronger than Nihilus, knows more Force techniques than Nihilus can ever dream of. Nihilus' best attack is his Force drain. . .wow, which Luke can counter by simply removing himself from the Force.
and kreia not knowing luke? its obvious but a 4000 year gap. and cmon many tecniques in the force and in lightsaber combat were forgotten over that time period . lots of them. just like tulaks lightsaber style im not being bias or anything but look at it this way.
Dude, what does that have to do with anything? Luke battled DE Sidious, who knew "all forgotten, all unknown, and created new techniques at his leisure" in other words: Luke fought someone who knew all techniques, and guess what? By NJO/DN, Luke would beat him.
And you are bias, and there is no other way to look at it.
any1 in SW can defeat any1, jedi sith or not as long as they know what they r up against and come out with a solution. that seems unlikely but its possible
LMFAO! So Zett Jukassa can beat Count Dooku? So a stormtrooper can beat Darth Sidious? So ROTJ Luke can beat DE Sidious? So a Jedi youngling can beat Exar Kun?
ROFL. LMFAO. LALWZORS.
You are such a newb. "Any1 in SW can defeat any1" - that is completely and 100% bullshit. Even if you gave someone like Zett Jukassa a year to study his enemy, he would die to Count Dooku.
Damn, you're an idiot.
and if u bother to look at it closely he does the force drain, lightning. force pull and force crush all at once and he did it only to show what hes made of to sion, not kill him and he used it with very little power,
1.) Force lightning has been resisted by vastly inferior Force users. See: Obi-Wan in AOTC against Dooku. See: Maul against Mgheela.
Luke is literally the strongest character in Star Wars, he knows things Nihilus never even heard of, he has defenses for anything an inferior Force user can throw at him.
2.) Luke would toast Nihilus before a spark even left his hand.
3.) That was cut content, in otherwords: non canon.
why? because using his full power made him destroy an entire planet
Your point? Killed a planet of people that cannot remove themselves from the Force. Luke can, and his students as well.
lollol and handing my ass to me?
Yes, it's called a "saying". Literally meaning I destroyed your argument. Perhaps you'd know if you weren't. . .say 10 year olds?
lmfao i alrdy have 1 thank you.
*crickets chirp*
oops im holding ur brain want it back?
No, you're not. That was probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard. The whole "hand you your ass" thing is a saying. Your "holding your brain" is not a saying, but a sad, sad attempt at a joke.
Too bad for you that it wasn't funny, and you failed.
sry but ur view of the facts is different my view of the facts is different to.
My "view of facts" is different? Facts are facts. I can already gauge by the way you type, the way you think, and the way you present your supposed "facts" that I'm more intelligent, so I think I'll be trusting my own interpretations thank you. I pray for the person who actually agrees with your logic.
i doubt u know that
Know what? That you're an idiot? No, no. I could tell that from the first sentence you typed.
Damn, ESB, if you're going to debate can you at least type properly? I cannot understand shit like "l0l any1 c4n b3at any1 g1v3n th3y kn01 wh4t th3y 4re 4g41n5t", which is basically the shit you're spewing. Also, quit triple posting - it's so f*cking annoying.
im not a fanboy of nihilus dude lol.
\hey man do u ever know how nihilus stalks the jedi? come on if the miraluka world knew of his presence they would have sent the jedi out to attempt to destroy him.
nihilus is a sith lord who strikes from the shadows, what are the chances of luke knowing so??
if my posting is annoying advent, accept it, live with it and may the force be with you
i am standing up for nihilus because people overrate the other fighters whom they put with a match with him,
and yes when luke removes himself from the force nihilus cant drain but what r the chances?
and btw u cant destroy my arguements 😄 u can try but u already failed.
and did u watch the video btw? nihilus being able to use 5 force powers with 1 hand? force drain , lightning, pull, push, force crush.
and 10 yr old? sry but 10 yr old kids aint smart to argue and im not 10 yrs old 😛 i think ur bout 12 yrs old
and you like to say the same old thing chanting it over and over again "wooo luke can remove himself from tha force!"
u know what? like i say before luke removes himself nihilus strikes and did you know his strikes with the force drain are so fast it cannot be countered? yes luke can provided he spots nihilus and does it.
you are looking at the fight from 1 point of view siding luke.
i am neutral.
its because u dont read 🙁
like i say i am not biased, both of them can beat each other, its all thru what they do first,
luke = he win nihilus = he wins then get it?
like in a fight, guy A and guy B both holding knifes,
if B strikes first, he wins, if A stabs first then he wins.
Originally posted by ESB Vader
im not a fanboy of nihilus dude lol.
Just because you say it, doesn't mean it's true.
For example: People with mental disorders can say that they are completely sane. Is it true from a medical standpoint? No, it's not.
hey man do u ever know how nihilus stalks the jedi?
First of all, I'm not a "man". Second of all, what the hell does "stalking the Jedi" have to do with anything?
come on if the miraluka world knew of his presence they would have sent the jedi out to attempt to destroy him.
Your point? According to you, "the Exile is the only one who can beat him". So by your logic, what good would that do?
nihilus is a sith lord who strikes from the shadows, what are the chances of luke knowing so??
Dude, Luke and Nihilus in a versus fight are literally dropped into the setting. They are not lightyears away, ergo there is no "shadows" for Nihilus to strike from. What the f*ck? You're a complete and utter moron.
if my posting is annoying advent, accept it, live with it and may the force be with you
Your posting is annoying because you cannot spell properly, you don't quote - so I don't know what you're responding to. And I don't live in a fantasy world, so there's no "Force" to be with me. All I can say to you is: May God be with you, you sick child.
i am standing up for nihilus because people overrate the other fighters whom they put with a match with him,
When has anyone underestimated Nihilus in a fight? Prove up, liar. Show me where "people" overrate the other fights. And don't include me as an example because you said "people" in other words: plural.
and btw u cant destroy my arguements 😄 u can try but u already failed.
I just did twice. So, apparently, I can. As well, just because you say I can't, doesn't mean that I actually can't or haven't already.
and did u watch the video btw? nihilus being able to use 5 force powers with 1 hand? force drain , lightning, pull, push, force crush.
So? Have you even read any of the New Jedi Order series? The Dark Nest series perhaps? I'm guessing not. Luke resisted Raynar Thul, who had the power of 365 planets (or killek nests was it?). I don't exactly remember, it was awhile ago I've read it.
and 10 yr old?
Yes. You are 10 years of age. You cannot type a proper sentence at all. I do not understand words such as "l0l n n1hlus i5 g0d". Seriously.
sry but 10 yr old kids aint smart to argue and im not 10 yrs old 😛 i think ur bout 12 yrs old
You think I'm "bout 12 yrs old" based on what? The fact I use words you're unable to comprehend The fact I'm more intelligent than you? The fact I type with perfection?
Really, I was born on February 2, 1986. Can you tell me how old I am? Or are you unable to do the math?
(Hint: Subtract 1986 from 2006.)
From the way I argue, present facts clearly anyone can tell I'm not twelve. What an unsupported assumption. However, from the way you type (that's key), your inability to formulate any logical arguments, and such - it's obvious. You're an underage user.
Oh, and btw the user Numan was 11 years old, if I remember correctly. He could debate better than you.
and you like to say the same old thing chanting it over and over again "wooo luke can remove himself from tha force!"
When do I ever say "wooo"? I'm not Ric Flair. When did I ever use "tha"? I don't type like a noob, unlike some people (you).
u know what?
No, sorry, I've never met "what".
like i say before luke removes himself nihilus strikes and did you know his strikes with the force drain are so fast it cannot be countered? yes luke can provided he spots nihilus and does it.
That made basically no sense. Yes, like you say, not what is fact. His attacks are so fast they cannot be countered? Luke has Emerald Lightning, pal. An "instakill" - it instantly kills the victim. So, what's your point?
And WTF do you mean "provide he spots"? That makes no sense, you idiot.
you are looking at the fight from 1 point of view siding luke.
No, I'm looking at the fight from a mature, and logical perspective as opposed to your illogical and irrational perspective that Nihilus can kill anything.
i am neutral.
Just because you say it, doesn't mean it's true.
For example: People with mental disorders can say that they are completely sane. Is it true from a medical standpoint? No, it's not.
its because u dont read 🙁
Don't read? Ahem, I've read more than you ever will in your entire lifetime. I'm sorry that your posts are filled with things that are basically illegible because you do not know how to type.
like i say i am not biased, both of them can beat each other, its all thru what they do first,
You're simply wrong. Luke can remove himself from the Force, which would basically be a counter to Nihilus' Force drain.
luke = he win nihilus = he wins then get it?
No, because you're wrong. Also, because you don't make sense.
like in a fight, guy A and guy B both holding knifes, if B strikes first, he wins, if A stabs first then he wins.
That is completely wrong, you dolt. Is A more experienced with a knife? Is B more experienced? Does A practice knife fighting? Has B ever been in a knife fight? What do we know about A's history with a knife? B's? How many times a day does A spend practicing with a knife? How long has B been training with a knife?
It depends on the skill of A or B to determine the winner. If A can block B's stab, then how does B instantly win?
Answer: He doesn't. There's thousands of other things I could ask, and thousands of outcomes as well. Just saying "If A stabs B, he wins" is not enough, since you didn't give me any knowledge about A or B.
the only way for luke to kill nihilus if he uses that green lightning, normal force attacks can be absorbed by nihilus because he consumes the force in anyform, but who knows maybe he can counter the green lightning
No, he can't. It's an unbreakable instakill. INSTAKILL. In other words: instantly KILLS. I mean, if you're going to argue that Luke can't block Nihilus' Force drain, but Nihilus' - an inferior Force user - can block a vastly more powerful Force user's attack?
Double standards, fanboyism, and pretty much proof that you're an idiot.
and u want to say may god be with me? playing religious shit aint you? ur a typical brainless american whos out there trying to call people "kid"
and acting like u own the world.
ur 20 years old get a life i alrdy have mine and im happy living it.
trust me try to argue, i will keep going on and on and on because why?
i do not give up and nothing can break my arguements 😄