What made God?

Started by mahasattva11 pages

Originally posted by Mindship
The Boring Answer--and the simplest, therefore probably the best answer--is: God Always Was.

The Fun Answer (at least, I think it's fun) goes like this:
"Where did God come from?"
"God created Himself."
"How could God create Himself?"
"That's what makes God God."

The idea is that this one action--so utterly incomprehensible to us--because it is so utterly incomprehensible: this one action perhaps best highlights the Absolute Power and Nature of God, of just how Infinitely More Capable "He" is than anything else we can even remotely imagine.

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Life is merely one of the earlier expressions of existence. There is intelligence, love, justice and many other qualities that more evolved animals, especially we humans posses. These qualities if not entirely absent in the inanimate world of matter their existence is negligible. Wherefrom these faculties come? A religious minded person might exclaim “God”. But as I demonstrated, a purposeful God, as described in the Semitic sacred books, has no role in the evolution. All these attributes are part of the Single Principle. The universe therefore is not chaotic but an orderly one. It has not been created by an intelligent being, but there is a Principle underlying its creation. Law and order govern all things. A Single Principle permeates all the existence. The Principle defines how things happen and the evolution is the process of that eternal happening. If you feel comfortable and do not confuse that Principle with Allah or Jehovah, you may call it God. But the Principle is not a being. This God is neither a he nor a she. It is IT. You cannot talk to God nor God talks back to you. God does not send messengers nor he cares bout you. God is not intelligent but it is Intelligence. God is not loving but It is Love. God is not wise, compassionate, merciful or just but It is wisdom, compassion, mercy and justice. God dose not have attributes because God is not a thing. It is not a being. God is a non-being. The non-being is the mother of all beings. God is the Principle and the evolution is the process. God is HOW and the rest is WHAT! That is all there is, HOW and WHAT.

God cannot be defined, but it can be understood. There are two ways to understand God. One is through the reflection of the world within, the inner world, and the other is by observing the world without, the outer world. The first method is through meditation and the second is by scientific observation. We can know God and we can experience God but no one can lead us to It.

I agree that there is a superior intelligence and a principle that make this world go round. There is a Single Principle underlying the creation. The Universe is governed by natural laws that are eternal.

You may ask WHAT caused these laws to appear. The answer is nothing! If these laws are eternal then they cannot have any cause. Now you may say that any law needs a legislator. Then I ask you who created that legislator? You see? It is much easier to accept that laws are self-subsisting than accept that there is a self-subsisting legislator. If we are going to accept the existence of God as a dogma, something for which we have no evidence but accept it anyway, then why not accept the dogma that natural laws have been there always? This is far easier to digest. For example, 2+2=4. This is a principle. It will not change and it is eternal. Now isn't it more logical to believe that this law exists on its own and no one created it than assume that a deity made 2+2=4? If God did not exist and the universe did not exist could it be possible that 2+2 be something different than 4?

Argh....another intelligence person.

Intelligence implies Consciousness.

Consciousnesss implies Ability to Intervene in the World

Ability to Intervene in the World is not proven.

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Natural laws AREN'T intelligent. They simply are.

Originally posted by Alliance
Argh....another intelligence person.

Intelligence implies Consciousness.

Consciousnesss implies Ability to Intervene in the World

Ability to Intervene in the World is not proven.

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Natural laws AREN'T intelligent. They simply are.

However, we assume we know what intelligence is. We may not be intelligent enough to know that is and is not intelligent.

Yes, but that clearly is a reason not to try and do the best we can.

Originally posted by Darth Kreiger
A big problem I see with the Bible, is it never states how God was created, he couldn't be around forever, it had to start somewhere

And your understanding of God is limited to what Bible has to say. Hmmm...

Bible doesn't talk about it and neither does Qur'an, and the reason for this is that Torah doesn't talk about it either.

If it did, Bible and Qur'an would have copied it, but....though luck.

Anyway, science can't explain how the universe was made (not in a way that doesn't contradicts the basics of physics). Once we scientifically understand how the Universe a.k.a God was created, we will have an answer.

For a more religious ways of explaining God (provided you really NEED to have a God in your life) refer to Hinduism.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
However, we assume we know what intelligence is. We may not be intelligent enough to know that is and is not intelligent.

Exactly, we as people might not really be "intelligent" we just think we are, we aren't intelligent enough to know. lol

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
However, we assume we know what intelligence is. We may not be intelligent enough to know that is and is not intelligent.

Is one intelligent if one does not use their intelligence intelligently? 😛

I do not know what made God, but what if God was one of us? Just a slob like one of us? Just a stranger on the bus? Trying to make his way home?

Much the idea behind Greek mythology. Gods are plagued by the smae problems that man is.

Originally posted by Robtard
I do not know what made God, but what if God was one of us? Just a slob like one of us? Just a stranger on the bus? Trying to make his way home?

That would make you treat other people better, if you thought God could be anybody. In my religion, we believe that every person is God, they just may not know it yet.

Sounds communist.

Originally posted by Alliance
Much the idea behind Greek mythology. Gods are plagued by the smae problems that man is.

I'm a big fan of mythology, one of my favorites is how Zeus impregnated Danae with a golden shower, that's some freaky/kinky sh!t there. 😛 I'm freaky and kinky myself, but I don't want to pee on anyone.

😂 I always like the rape of Europa.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That would make you treat other people better, if you thought God could be anybody. In my religion, we believe that every person is God, they just may not know it yet.

One, I was being sarcastic, what I said is just plagerized Joan Osborn lyrics. Two, if we're all Gods, can I be the god of sex?

Originally posted by Robtard
One, I was being sarcastic, what I said is just plagerized Joan Osborn lyrics. Two, if we're all Gods, can I be the god of sex?

According to my wife, I've already taken that one 😉

Originally posted by Alliance
😂 I always like the rape of Io.

Didn't he transform her into a cow and then have his way with her? That Zeus has some serious issues.

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Originally posted by Regret
According to my wife, I've already taken that one 😉

Fine!😠 ... I'll be the god of buttsex then.

Originally posted by Robtard
Fine!😠 ... I'll be the god of buttsex then.

oooo, new God there I think

Originally posted by Robtard
One, I was being sarcastic, what I said is just plagerized Joan Osborn lyrics. Two, if we're all Gods, can I be the god of sex?

No, that is my title. 😆