Semptember the 11th

Started by Darth Kreiger98 pages

Yes, they're "Clearly" fake, any proof? No? They're real

proof? you have eyes dont you? obviously not

Originally posted by Deano
proof? you have eyes dont you? obviously not

If you could provide information as to each story behind each Osama picture it would be appreciated. The info that you posted really does not support the pics at all.

Wow, that site didn't actually prove any of the "Evidence" they were speaking about, at all

of course it didnt...you know why? because you arelooking through your dogmatic eyes

Welcome to the 'Land of the Free' - Professor's 9/11 theories outrage New Hampshire 'leaders'

A tenured professor of psychology at the University of New Hampshire believes an "elite" group within the federal government orchestrated the September 11th attacks on America. William Woodward has already raised that possibility in his classroom and later this year hopes to teach a class that would explore Sept. 11th "in psychological terms -- terms like belief, conspiracy, fear, truth, courage, group dynamics." He may not get the chance.

Several state leaders yesterday criticized Woodward for bringing the radical theories into the classroom. "In my view, there are limitations to academic freedom and freedom of speech," said U.S. Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H. "I believe it is inappropriate for someone at a public university which is supported with taxpayer dollars to take positions that are generally an affront to the sensibility of most all Americans," Gregg said.'

Mr. Gregg, meanwhile, is an affront to anyone with a brain.

http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Professor%27s%209%2f11%20theories%20outrage%20NH%20leaders&articleId=0a013444-f391-4eaf-ae95-24cab674130b

that professor should lose his job. He is an educator........his job is teaching children known facts, data and/or methods of obtaining them........not rambling about conspiracies, aliens and the lochness monster.

Originally posted by Deano
William Woodward has already raised that possibility in his classroom and later this year hopes to teach a class that would explore Sept. 11th "in psychological terms -- terms like belief, conspiracy, fear, truth, courage, group dynamics." He may not get the chance.

Seems like a class with alterior motives. Subjects like belief, conspiracy, fear, truth, courage, group dynamics are best studied for their own merit, and then apply that knowledge in regards to situations such as 9/11 or other such events. To teach those "psychological terms" in respect to one event seems odd.

Originally posted by Deano
"I believe it is inappropriate for someone at a public university which is supported with taxpayer dollars to take positions that are generally an affront to the sensibility of most all Americans," Gregg said.'

I agree that it is inapproriate to teach the suggested class.

Originally posted by Deano
Mr. Gregg, meanwhile, is an affront to anyone with a brain.

That comment shows the mentality of the people who wrote the article.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
that professor should lose his job. He is an educator........his job is teaching children known facts, data and/or methods of obtaining them........not rambling about conspiracies, aliens and the lochness monster.

Agree.

By the way, did anyone catch the recent NOVA documentary regarding The world trade centre and 9/11?

Originally posted by Deano
Welcome to the 'Land of the Free' - Professor's 9/11 theories outrage New Hampshire 'leaders'

A tenured professor of psychology at the University of New Hampshire believes an "elite" group within the federal government orchestrated the September 11th attacks on America. William Woodward has already raised that possibility in his classroom and later this year hopes to teach a class that would explore Sept. 11th "in psychological terms -- terms like belief, conspiracy, fear, truth, courage, group dynamics." He may not get the chance.

Several state leaders yesterday criticized Woodward for bringing the radical theories into the classroom. "In my view, there are limitations to academic freedom and freedom of speech," said U.S. Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H. "I believe it is inappropriate for someone at a public university which is supported with taxpayer dollars to take positions that are generally an affront to the sensibility of most all Americans," Gregg said.'

Mr. Gregg, meanwhile, is an affront to anyone with a brain.


You should know as well as anyone that freedom of speech only exists up to a certain extent. If, for instance, I taught at a public college and wanted to teach a class about why child pornography is an acceptable part of someone's mid-life crisis, the public would be in an uproar. You probably would, too. And rightfully so. Freedom of speech does NOT exist in government related jobs (such as education), nor should it. If he worked at a private university and wanted to teach this class, then that would be up to the board and the public can't say anything about it. But as they're paying for it, I think they ahve a right to make their opinions known.

of course it didnt...you know why? because you arelooking through your dogmatic eyes

I would have thought you of all people would be happy we're asking questions. Didn't you say not to believe everything we're told?

9/11 Truth Hits Main Stream Media

'People who believe the second explanation live in a very different world from those who believe the first. In world No. 2, al-Qaeda is not responsible for the destruction of the World Trade Center. The U.S. government is. The Pentagon was not hit by a commercial jet; it was hit by a cruise missile. United Flight 93 did not crash after its occupants rushed the cockpit; it was deliberately taken down by a U.S. Air Force fighter.

The entire catastrophe was planned and executed by federal officials in order to provide the U.S. with a pretext for going to war in the Middle East and, by extension, as a means of consolidating and extending the power of the Bush Administration.'

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1531304-1,00.html

Who really blew up the twin towers?

'Shards of glass and dust from the World Trade Centre towers sit on Professor Steven Jones's desk at Brigham Young University in Utah. Evidence, he says, of the biggest cover-up in history - one too evil for most to believe, but one he has staked his academic career on exposing. The attacks of September 11, Jones asserts, were an "inside job", puppeteered by the neoconservatives in the White House to justify the occupation of oil-rich Arab countries, inflate military spending and expand Israel.

"We don't believe that 19 hijackers and a few others in a cave in Afghanistan pulled this off acting alone," says Jones. "We challenge this official conspiracy theory and, by God, we're going to get to the bottom of this."'

http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/worldwide/story/0,,1864657,00.html

The outer structure of the tower fell faster than the inside, and some of the stair structures remained intact.

So usa attacked there own country ??

technically yes and no. the wealtyh familys whocontrol pretty much the entire planet did it. they own it all. they run the show, they pull the strings.

look up ''operation northwoods ''

thanks for mentioning that about operation northwoods Deano.I been attending some meetings here in my city from concerned citizens about 9-11 and they have had some really knowledgeable people here give presentations that for sure point to it being an inside job.I was talking to somebody there telling them about how it irks me how a lot of people today don't realise how important the Kennedy assassination altered the course of history big time and how it affects our lives today and one of the men there mentioned to me I was so right about that,he then brought up operation northwoods -which until a week or so ago I wasn't aware of,but yeah he brought up operation northwoods and that even more so proved to me how the Kennedy assassination still to this day affects us because Kennedy stopped operation northwoods from happening and because of that,for 40 years till 9-11 happened,he had successfully stopped any out of control government people from pulling off something against its own people to get us into a war until now with 9-11 of course.wow Deano,I've said this before,I'm really impressed with the homework you have done and how you keep up to date on these things.I just wish other people would bother to do their homework as well and bother to listen to you for a change so they wouldn't be so ignorant of whats REALLY going on around us.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
thanks for mentioning that about operation northwoods Deano.I been attending some meetings here in my city from concerned citizens about 9-11 and they have had some really knowledgeable people here give presentations that for sure point to it being an inside job.I was talking to somebody there telling them about how it irks me how a lot of people today don't realise how important the Kennedy assassination altered the course of history big time and how it affects our lives today and one of the men there mentioned to me I was so right about that,he then brought up operation northwoods -which until a week or so ago I wasn't aware of,but yeah he brought up operation northwoods and that even more so proved to me how the Kennedy assassination still to this day affects us because Kennedy stopped operation northwoods from happening and because of that,for 40 years till 9-11 happened,he had successfully stopped any out of control government people from pulling off something against its own people to get us into a war until now with 9-11 of course.wow Deano,I've said this before,I'm really impressed with the homework you have done and how you keep up to date on these things.I just wish other people would bother to do their homework as well and bother to listen to you for a change so they wouldn't be so ignorant of whats REALLY going on around us.

Until a week ago? I'm pretty sure you were talking about it in a post a while back, Month or so, at the least.

How exactly do you know we're Ignorant? Have you ever bothered to think your Conspiracy Theorists are lying to YOU? Making the Meaning of Documents sound differant than they really are? You'd think that if the Government was really behind this, Alex Jones would have a coincidental Accident, don't ya think? Don't want him spreading the word.

The goverment did it.

Originally posted by Deano
look up ''operation northwoods ''

Deano, just stop it.

You keep bringing up ''operation northwoods '' as though it has some relevance to 9/11, which it doesn't. This issue has been debated by me ,and others, and shown time and time again that it was merely one of many ridiculous ideas that the military is made to come up with in order to look at ALL contingencies and option.

You often bring up a point which is shot down by multiple members only to bring it up late and hope that it will influence newer members who didn't see the lamness of your suggestion the first 3 or 4 times.

Stop it, it's getting tired.

you are wrong. it is relevant

Operation Northwoods, or Northwoods, was a 1962 plan to generate U.S. public support for military action against the Cuban government of Fidel Castro as part of the U.S. government's Operation Mongoose anti-Castro initiative. The plan, which was not implemented, called for various false flag actions, including simulated or real state sponsored terrorism (such as hijacked planes) on U.S. and Cuban soil. The plan was proposed by senior U.S. Department of Defense leaders, including the highest ranking member of the U.S. military, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Lyman Louis Lemnitzer.

The proposal was presented in a document entitled "Justification for US Military Intervention in Cuba," a collection of draft memoranda (PDF) written by the Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) representative to the Caribbean Survey Group. The document was presented by the JCS to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara on March 13 with one paragraph approved, as a preliminary submission for planning purposes.

The previously secret document was originally made public on November 18, 1997 by the John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Review Board [1], a U.S. federal agency overseeing the release of government records related to John F. Kennedy's assassination. [2] [3] A total of about 1500 pages of once-secret military records covering 1962 to 1964 were concomitantly declassified by said Review Board.

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Code named Operation Northwoods, the plan, which had the written approval of the Chairman and every member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called for innocent people to be shot on American streets; for boats carrying refugees fleeing Cuba to be sunk on the high seas; for a wave of violent terrorism to be launched in Washington, D.C., Miami, and elsewhere. People would be framed for bombings they did not commit; planes would be hijacked. Using phony evidence, all of it would be blamed on Castro, thus giving Lemnitzer and his cabal the excuse, as well as the public and international backing, they needed to launch their war.

PLUS!

the project for the new american century document stated in 2000 that there needs to be a pearl harbour like attack on american soil to get us into a war with iraq.

then what happened a year later on 2001?....

Originally posted by Deano
you are wrong. it is relevant

Operation Northwoods, or Northwoods, was a 1962 plan to generate U.S. public support for military action against the Cuban government of Fidel Castro as part of the U.S. government's Operation Mongoose anti-Castro initiative. [b]The plan, which was not implemented, called for various false flag actions, including simulated or real state sponsored terrorism (such as hijacked planes) on U.S. and Cuban soil. The plan was proposed by senior U.S. Department of Defense leaders, including the highest ranking member of the U.S. military, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Lyman Louis Lemnitzer.

The proposal was presented in a document entitled "Justification for US Military Intervention in Cuba," a collection of draft memoranda (PDF) written by the Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) representative to the Caribbean Survey Group. The document was presented by the JCS to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara on March 13 with one paragraph approved, as a preliminary submission for planning purposes.

The previously secret document was originally made public on November 18, 1997 by the John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Review Board [1], a U.S. federal agency overseeing the release of government records related to John F. Kennedy's assassination. [2] [3] A total of about 1500 pages of once-secret military records covering 1962 to 1964 were concomitantly declassified by said Review Board.

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Code named Operation Northwoods, the plan, which had the written approval of the Chairman and every member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called for innocent people to be shot on American streets; for boats carrying refugees fleeing Cuba to be sunk on the high seas; for a wave of violent terrorism to be launched in Washington, D.C., Miami, and elsewhere. People would be framed for bombings they did not commit; planes would be hijacked. Using phony evidence, all of it would be blamed on Castro, thus giving Lemnitzer and his cabal the excuse, as well as the public and international backing, they needed to launch their war.

PLUS!

the project for the new american century document stated in 2000 that there needs to be a pearl harbour like attack on american soil to get us into a war with iraq.

then what happened a year later on 2001?.... [/B]

hmm That last bit I already knew.