To be on topic, both lose because their concept fails. They are basically the epitome of "*fanboy masturbate, masturbate, masturbate*" over a quasi intellectual man in tights. Both are made to be uber, omgwtf "I GET TEH BAIB CUZ I B GAI" "super" heroes. When, in actuality, the heroism is a pathetic ploy to get the plot rolling (I.E DB series past Frieza); but sadly enough, their is none. And we got Superman 64.