Emma Frost vs Psylocke

Instead of the Psi-blades being created with her psychic energy, which she knew couldn't effect Emma's second mutation at all, She created the blades with telekinetic energy that would hit her body physically rather than mentally.

One by one, Betsy threw each blade with more intensity than the last, and she hit Emma from all different angles in an attempt to weaken her shell. She knew once she broke that form, Emma would be greatly weakened. Betsy knew she only had seconds to do this. She had to help Jean.

Just curious, is that a legit or even possible move? And would it affect diamond-Emma? I've already responded, but it doesn't matter, I can think of a way that Frost can used it to her advantage, but for future reference..?

Hm... 😑

Originally posted by bitca360
Instead of the Psi-blades being created with her psychic energy, which she knew couldn't effect Emma's second mutation at all, She created the blades with telekinetic energy that would hit her body physically rather than mentally.

One by one, Betsy threw each blade with more intensity than the last, and she hit Emma from all different angles in an attempt to weaken her shell. She knew once she broke that form, Emma would be greatly weakened. Betsy knew she only had seconds to do this. She had to help Jean.

Just curious, is that a legit or even possible move? And would it affect diamond-Emma? I've already responded, but it doesn't matter, I can think of a way that Frost can used it to her advantage, but for future reference..?

It looks more like Emma's tactic than Psylocke. It's Emma who throws bolts of raw psionic energy. Psylocke uses them as close combat weapons, and throwing them like knives is pretty...retarded. Not that it's impossible- it's just Psylocke never uses that tactic, while it's pretty established in Emma's arsenal.

Anyway, with Emma's diamond body dispersing psionic energy it won't hurt. And if yourt opponent relies on that absurd "tactic", you may a little "boost" dispersion properties (in Warsong they worked pretty well against attacks>>one used on you there)

I know you say that Emma's diamond form disperses her own psychic energy so she cannot use her telepathy when in this form, but, as far as you can recall, is there any on-panel evidence of telepathy being completely ineffective against her while transformed?

Woo, long sentence.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I know you say that Emma's diamond form disperses her own psychic energy so she cannot use her telepathy when in this form, but, as far as you can recall, is there any on-panel evidence of telepathy being completely ineffective against her while transformed?

Woo, long sentence.

It was stated in Phoenix Warsong that Emma's Diamond Form makes her immune to telepathy. She shut out the telepathic cries of the 1000 Cuckoos by changing into Diamond. She also feels nothing in Diamond Form, no pain etc.
She also managed to sneak up on Cassandra Nova hooked up to Cerebra in Morrison's X-Men in Diamond Form. And Cassandra Nova couldn't read her mind when she was in Diamond Form during Morrisons Shiar Arc.

Not that it matters because the version of Psylocke being used in this thread is Claremont's toy but Psylocke's psi-knife would be useless. Emma's form disperses psychic energy see Unlimited X-Men 42 or the respect thread is should be on the fourth page (I would but this phone I'm using sucks and I'll have to re-right everything I just typed).
The same thing that happened when Psylocke plunged her knife through Sabertooths head right before she got gutted would happen if she plunged her psi-knife through Diamond Emma.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
It was stated in Phoenix Warsong that Emma's Diamond Form makes her immune to telepathy. She shut out the telepathic cries of the 1000 Cuckoos by changing into Diamond. She also feels nothing in Diamond Form, no pain etc.
She also managed to sneak up on Cassandra Nova hooked up to Cerebra in Morrison's X-Men in Diamond Form. And Cassandra Nova couldn't read her mind when she was in Diamond Form during Morrisons Shiar Arc.

Not that it matters because the version of Psylocke being used in this thread is Claremont's toy but Psylocke's psi-knife would be useless. Emma's form disperses psychic energy see Unlimited X-Men 42 or the respect thread is should be on the fourth page (I would but this phone I'm using sucks and I'll have to re-right everything I just typed).
The same thing that happened when Psylocke plunged her knife through Sabertooths head right before she got gutted would happen if she plunged her psi-knife through Diamond Emma.

Thanks, colleague. That's what I was trying to explain🙂

BTW, has found some stuff we haven't added to the RT- at least properly🙂 Maybe later tonight there would be an addition.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Thanks, colleague. That's what I was trying to explain🙂

BTW, has found some stuff we haven't added to the RT- at least properly🙂 Maybe later tonight there would be an addition.

Sounds good. Sorry about the lack of additions to the thread I'm out of the country at the moment and the only access I have to the internet is this phone. I've been keeping up with spoilers and such so there seem to be some big additions that need to be added to the thread. I saw the solicits for X-Men: Secret Invasion #3 Emma's taking on the whole Skrull Psychic Wall by herself apparently. When I get back I'll have to read and scan through the pile of comics left at my door.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
It was stated in Phoenix Warsong that Emma's Diamond Form makes her immune to telepathy. She shut out the telepathic cries of the 1000 Cuckoos by changing into Diamond. She also feels nothing in Diamond Form, no pain etc.
She also managed to sneak up on Cassandra Nova hooked up to Cerebra in Morrison's X-Men in Diamond Form. And Cassandra Nova couldn't read her mind when she was in Diamond Form during Morrisons Shiar Arc.

Not that it matters because the version of Psylocke being used in this thread is Claremont's toy but Psylocke's psi-knife would be useless. Emma's form disperses psychic energy see Unlimited X-Men 42 or the respect thread is should be on the fourth page (I would but this phone I'm using sucks and I'll have to re-right everything I just typed).
The same thing that happened when Psylocke plunged her knife through Sabertooths head right before she got gutted would happen if she plunged her psi-knife through Diamond Emma.

Okay, I can accept that. 🙂

However, while her diamond form is immune to telepathy, it wouldn't be to telekinesis (obviously). Emma's diamond form isn't nearly as impervious as you believe. Storm once had her pinned against a brick wall with her winds and threatened to effortlessly impale her with a steel shaft. Emma appeared truly defeated at that point, because she surrendered the fight to Storm. I believe Emma's opinion on if it would've pierced her.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Okay, I can accept that. 🙂

However, while her diamond form is immune to telepathy, it wouldn't be to telekinesis (obviously). Emma's diamond form isn't nearly as impervious as you believe. Storm once had her pinned against a brick wall with her winds and threatened to effortlessly impale her with a steel shaft. Emma appeared truly defeated at that point, because she surrendered the fight to Storm. I believe Emma's opinion on if it would've pierced her.

It was just a threat without any substantial claims, and even if Storm can't (what it really looks like) Emma lacked the strength to move against her wind. Thus Psylocke can immobilise&BFR Emma with ease. Shatter- don't think so.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Okay, I can accept that. 🙂

However, while her diamond form is immune to telepathy, it wouldn't be to telekinesis (obviously). Emma's diamond form isn't nearly as impervious as you believe. Storm once had her pinned against a brick wall with her winds and threatened to effortlessly impale her with a steel shaft. Emma appeared truly defeated at that point, because she surrendered the fight to Storm. I believe Emma's opinion on if it would've pierced her.

If you look at the previous page you'll see that I stated that TK Psylocke would take it because she's immune telepathy.

Emma's mass doesn't change in Diamond Form so pinning her against a wall wouldn't be difficult so with that I concede.
But the steel pole was an empty threat and Emma didn't surrender to Storm in fact she refused to surrender. Emma's taken bullets from a torrent gun and shot guns and handguns not to mention survived the attack on Genosha(Wild Sentinels, Explosions, Shrapnel etc). Here's a question how fast do bullets travel because I'm pretty sure they're faster then that steel rod hurled at hurricane speeds?

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
If you look at the previous page you'll see that I stated that TK Psylocke would take it because she's immune telepathy.

Emma's mass doesn't change in Diamond Form so pinning her against a wall wouldn't be difficult so with that I concede.
But the steel pole was an empty threat and Emma didn't surrender to Storm in fact she refused to surrender. Emma's taken bullets from a torrent gun and shot guns and handguns not to mention survived the attack on Genosha(Wild Sentinels, Explosions, Shrapnel etc). Here's a question how fast do bullets travel because I'm pretty sure they're faster then that steel rod hurled at hurricane speeds?

Absolute truth. Psylocke immobilising and BFRing Emma is out of question- Emma has no ways to resist the TK. The only question still unanswered is whether or not Psylocke has skill to shatter Emma's diamond form on molecular level.
BTW, I've started posting updates for Emma's RT.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Absolute truth. Psylocke immobilising and BFRing Emma is out of question- Emma has no ways to resist the TK. The only question still unanswered is whether or not Psylocke has skill to shatter Emma's diamond form on molecular level.

Claremont is a douche for being so inconsistent. In the End of the Greys and First Fallen arc Psylocke had no finesse regarding her TK. In New Excalibur Psylocke can modify her body on a molecular level so she can turn invisible.

But CIS would suggest that she'd go H2H against Diamond Emma like she does in all her recent appearances. shifty:

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Claremont is a douche for being so inconsistent. In the End of the Greys and First Fallen arc Psylocke had no finesse regarding her TK. In New Excalibur Psylocke can modify her body on a molecular level so she can turn invisible.

But CIS would suggest that she'd go H2H against Diamond Emma like she does in all her recent appearances. shifty:

Betsy's superior MA, though Emma has improved her MA prowess- but Psylocke is no Karate Kid either, and thus probably ends up just like Sage, another MA with complete control over her body😉

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Betsy's superior MA, though Emma has improved her MA prowess- but Psylocke is no Karate Kid either, and thus probably ends up just like Sage, another MA with complete control over her body😉

She is but regardless of how superior she is if she went in guns blazing and ignored her TK like she did against "Chung Li" in that Excalibur/Exiles crossover she'd end up like Sage and Bishop since Emma is much, much stronger and more durable in Diamond form.

BTW Psylocke is immune to TP which makes what Emma did to Exodus TK moot. But didn't Emma block the weakened Phoenix telekinesis with telepathy in Endsong? 😖hifty: (IRRC They actually stated that it was telekinesis it should be in the RT.)

Can't wait for Claremont to let go of Sage so she can come back to 616.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
She is but regardless of how superior she is if she went in guns blazing and ignored her TK like she did against "Chung Li" in that Excalibur/Exiles crossover she'd end up like Sage and Bishop since Emma is much, much stronger and more durable in Diamond form.

BTW Psylocke is immune to TP which makes what Emma did to Exodus TK moot. But didn't Emma block the weakened Phoenix telekinesis with telepathy in Endsong? 😖hifty: (IRRC They actually stated that it was telekinesis it should be in the RT.)

Can't wait for Claremont to let go of Sage so she can come back to 616.

She blocked the attempt of Phoenix Force to grab hold on Scott IIRC. But I'm not sure whether it was TP or TK🙂
http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmes0406sv4.jpg

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
She blocked the attempt of Phoenix Force to grab hold on Scott IIRC. But I'm not sure whether it was TP or TK🙂
http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmes0406sv4.jpg

I think it's the page before that. It's a double page IRRC I'll be back have to search through that respect thread.

Okay found it.

http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page0304zb4ep1.jpg

BTW Nice additions it's the first time I'm seeing those scans.

"Shut up and drink your tea"...lol

I heard the little quips at the party in UXM #500 were pretty good.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Okay found it.

http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page0304zb4ep1.jpg

BTW Nice additions it's the first time I'm seeing those scans.

"Shut up and drink your tea"...lol

I heard the little quips at the party in UXM #500 were pretty good.

And I was thinking whether to add lobothomy moment from that one🙂 Definetely adding🙂)

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=439489&from=thread&pagenumber=19#post10882339