Mace Windu & Anakin Skywalker vs. Darth Bandon and Bane

One more thing to add to this. Darth Bandon showed absolutely nothing in my mind, and because he was apprenticed to Malak does not necesarily mean he was the 2nd best in the order of thousands of sith, because there were also fallen Jedi and all that jazz, so I don't know how it's logical to assume he was powerful and was #2 because he was apprenticed to Malak. Bastilla was also apprenticed to Malak but outside of her Battle Meditation, she showed nothing.

She was clearly one of the more able jedi warriors, as the council did send her (as well as others) to ambush Revan. The fact that her battle meditation was so impressive suggests that she was also very strong in the force.

Yes but outside of Revan, Malak, and the likes of Dvorak and Vrook, we haven't seen much from anybody else on that council at that time.

Dorak? What'd he do?

In strength? Anakin's up there, possibly second strongest behind Yoda.

Big deal, shows Anakin was one of the best saber duelists in the entire order.

Afraid it does include Obi-wan and possibly Mace. Possibly ANY generation in regards to talent and ability.

Bandon'd been a Sith for how long? Five years? Any idea what he did to become Malak's apprentice? He and two others were taken out by Revan rather easily...his best feat: Killing trask Ulgo.

Um, no: The Jedi took Bane down. His fall is mention in the ROTS novelization. We don't even know if Zannah survived.

Please, the obralisks are not infallible, nor were they ever tested. Oh, and Bane's head is uncovered and vulnerable. It was just thought that a saber would have trouble penetrating it...we've seen sabers go through cortosis and mandalorian iron, which are stronger than orbalisks.

Mace's body isn't wide open and Bane's head is open. He wore a mask so they wouldn't cover it, but the mask afforded no protection.

Proof Bane's strength and speed are anything near Mace's? I thought so.

Lesse, it's mentioned Mace was a master at telekentic saber combat? And point? Lesse: Bane did NOT train from birth and Mace can crush every bone in his body.

And stated to be a rarity in the Visual dictionary? Makashi was always rare

Lightsnake I'm afraid it doesn't include Windu, because Windu's only superior was Yoda. Anakin wouldn't win in a battle with Windu.

Why not? He beat Dooku

So? And Mace beat Sidious? Totally irrelevant.

Hardly. As a duelist, Anakin is in league with Mace

Hold on here.

Once again, I have to take the middle ground. Anakin, as a duelist, is on par with Yoda, Sidious, Mace, Dooku, or any other PT Force user you'd care to name.

He could easily contend with Mace in a lightsaber fight. But in an all out fight? Mace has the Shatterpoint ability and his superior Force powers, which Anakin can't handle.

Yoda, Mace, and Sidious are all on the same level for me.

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