Phoenix vs Superman AND WonderWoman

Started by General Kon-El3 pages

Overkill. Superman alone can take Phoenix.

Originally posted by Sirius77
FAce it, don't be a fanboy, Pheonix isone of Marvel's most overrated characters, why do you think shes been killed and ressurrected so many times?
i personally dont like phoenix very much, i just think she would take this fight.....so u can stop the name calling please

Originally posted by galan7777777
i personally dont like phoenix very much, i just think she would take this fight.....so u can stop the name calling please

I didn't mean it offensively, but seriously, think about it, if Pheonix is so powerful, then why has she been killed by so many minor powered characters?

it's her defense that are weak, he attack power in unlimited but if a character can manage to stay outta the way then they got a shot, that's her major weakness

Supeman and Wonder Woman can take Pheonix if they are ready for it. Other than that, phoenix wins by default of her power lvls.

Originally posted by Juntai
Hasn't Pheonix been stopped and/or killed a ton of times?

We're talking a full powered Phoenix who is actually out to kill the opposition as per forum rules.

Phoenix has never faced an opponent in battle at full power and been defeated.

Originally posted by General Kon-El
Overkill. Superman alone can take Phoenix.

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Read up on Phoenix. Supes is nothing to her.

Originally posted by Sirius77
Y' know she was killed by an eletro-magnetic pulse right?...

Not in a battle situation. She comforted Xorneto as he lay down virtually defeated and he attacked her. The title previously made it clear that Jean had work to do elsewhere in creation and that she wouldnt be staying in 616 for much longer, all in the same issue her "death" occurred. A few panels later we saw Jean manifest in a Phoenix egg 150 years in the future, where she later went on to repair the universe in the palm of her hand.

If Phoenix chose to she could place herself above harm, a point stated and depicted on panel.

FAce it, don't be a fanboy, Pheonix isone of Marvel's most overrated characters, why do you think shes been killed and ressurrected so many times?

She has been killed a ressurected so many times because the Jean within stops her madness.

Don't be such a fanboy thinking superman can take a cosmic being?

The thread maker needs to be more specific.

It could just be Jean with the codename Phoenix.
It could be Dark Phoenix
It could be just the PF.

The last 2 options eat them.

Overkill. Superman alone can take Phoenix.

PF warps a nice big chunk of kryptonite in the palm of her hand and imbeds it in his face.

Okay its Jean merged with the Phoenix, but she is still trying to resist it.

Will that give them more of a chance?

**FI**

If Jean is "resisting" then yah. cause that would be the equivalent of darkphoenix. So i'd go with superman punching her stupid xxxx ing head off. he bashes it over and over until its a bloodly pile of mashed bloodly flesh. Jean dies and stays dead.

Btw. Jean is supposed to be the stupid "Avatar" of the PF. If she can come back infinite times, its the stupidest thing i've ever heard. Because then she should have always existed.. which.. hey guess what.. is what the PF is. NOT JEAN. ugh. stupid writers that can't remember the basis for their characters make me sick. and stupid fanboys that just stick with their ugly characters cause they have cartoon fetishes.

jean dies.

Phoenix wins this battle with ease. I think it was stated that she could fight and beat the JLA. Superman and WonderWoman make two nice graves in Phoenix's wake.

Originally posted by FireIncarnate
So you're all really thinking Phoenix will win? Despite Supes and WW's combined speedblitzing?

I think that this fight would be much closer due to the high resistances that SP and WW have.

**FI**

Speedblitz means nothing against a being with the power to harm classic Beyonder, Pheonix 1 hit wonders both without breaking a sweat, then goes out for coffee.

Phoenix did not hurt classic beyonder... He amped her up higher than anything she'd ever experienced... and that still wasn't enough to kill him...

btw. if phoenix is at odds with jean grey.. that leaves them open to a decapitation by superman.

Originally posted by rotiart
If Jean is "resisting" then yah. cause that would be the equivalent of darkphoenix. So i'd go with superman punching her stupid xxxx ing head off. he bashes it over and over until its a bloodly pile of mashed bloodly flesh. Jean dies and stays dead.

Btw. Jean is supposed to be the stupid "Avatar" of the PF. If she can come back infinite times, its the stupidest thing i've ever heard. Because then she should have always existed.. which.. hey guess what.. is what the PF is. NOT JEAN. ugh. stupid writers that can't remember the basis for their characters make me sick. and stupid fanboys that just stick with their ugly characters cause they have cartoon fetishes.

jean dies.

Why would Jean always have existed? She was destined to become the physical avatar of the PF, clearly meaning she wasn't meant to merge with it until a later time in her life, or she would ahve merged with it at birth.

All that I've said could be a couple of dog's crap but I'm just a little confused by what you're saying.

But even with Jean still resisting, she still does wield the enormous power of the PF, and normally it takes a while for Jean to resurface.

**FI**

Originally posted by rotiart
If Jean is "resisting" then yah. cause that would be the equivalent of darkphoenix. So i'd go with superman punching her stupid xxxx ing head off. he bashes it over and over until its a bloodly pile of mashed bloodly flesh. Jean dies and stays dead.

Btw. Jean is supposed to be the stupid "Avatar" of the PF. If she can come back infinite times, its the stupidest thing i've ever heard. Because then she should have always existed.. which.. hey guess what.. is what the PF is. NOT JEAN. ugh. stupid writers that can't remember the basis for their characters make me sick. and stupid fanboys that just stick with their ugly characters cause they have cartoon fetishes.

jean dies.

You call people fanboys when you think Superman and Wonder Woman can beat a cosmic entity? They lose just as bad as if they were fighting Galactus, or Thanos, or a well written Darkseid, or Tyrant, ect. They are brawlers. Saying they can beat a cosmic force is like saying Hulk, Juggernaut, Gladiator, ect can beat a cosmic force. Which.... guess what........ they cant.

But why JEAN. Why does it have to be some stupid character from earth that becomes the ONLY person capable of being the avatar, when its been shown that others could be, including that one kid.. i think his name was omega... and rachel... If jean was meant to be the avatar, then noone else should have been able to get the power. its absurd. And if she is just one of a long line of avatars... how come the others don't get to keep coming back to life like her.

i don't read xmen much anymore. whenever i do, i feel like PIS is being shoved down my throat.

Originally posted by rotiart
Phoenix did not hurt classic beyonder... He amped her up higher than anything she'd ever experienced... and that still wasn't enough to kill him...

btw. if phoenix is at odds with jean grey.. that leaves them open to a decapitation by superman.

True, she didnt, but the Beyonder himself said something along the lines that with all her power she might have been able to hurt him in Secret Wars 2.

Just cause a pine needle hurt you, doesn't mean its gonna kill you.
Even a paper cut hurts.

Originally posted by rotiart

i don't read xmen much anymore. whenever i do, i feel like PIS is being shoved down my throat.

Understandable.