pre-crisis superman v.s. classic juggernaut

these 2 are absolutley confined to the earth until one of them is victorious, meaning they cannot leave the earths atmosphere; so this way they cannot throw one another into deep space, also juggernauts helmet cannot be removed from him, and supermans speed has been taken away from him and reduced to the speed of juggernaut so that this will be an all out slug fest where speed will not really be involved, otherwise supe's would just avoid juggs with his super speed, but now he cant...........i think classic juggernaut takes this one, he never tires, has unlimited strength, and is indestructible to name a few........what do u think?

No offense, but are you joking? PRE-CRISIS SUPERMAN against Juggernaut? Pre-Crisis Superman sneezed and destroyed an entire galaxy (devoid of life) and travelled 4 trillion lightyears in 3 seconds, not only that but Pre-Crisis Bizzarro threw a punch that sent Pre-Crisis Superman into last week, and Pre-Crisis Bizzarro wasn't even as strong as Pre-Crisis Superman.

Juggernaut MIGHT get away with only a few broken bones if Pre-Crisis Superman allows it.

Originally posted by Sirius77
No offense, but are you joking? PRE-CRISIS SUPERMAN against Juggernaut? Pre-Crisis Superman sneezed and destroyed an entire galaxy (devoid of life) and travelled 4 trillion lightyears in 3 seconds, not only that but Pre-Crisis Bizzarro threw a punch that sent Pre-Crisis Superman into last week, and Pre-Crisis Bizzarro wasn't even as strong as Pre-Crisis Superman.

Juggernaut MIGHT get away with only a few broken bones if Pre-Crisis Superman allows it.

he can lift well over 100 tons having destroyed a plenet in the past with a punch, a total resistance to physical injury due to his mystic spell of invulnerability; an impenetrable force field that he could summon at will; and unlimited stamina. His spell also granted him unbreakable skin, therefore making his forcefield an added protection in case he did not wish for a certain attack to touch his physical body. Due to the mystical energies flowing through his body, he did not need to eat, breathe, or drink fluids. As a vessel of mystic energy, he also possessed many abstract powers that had yet to be fully revealed. Finally, while moving, he could, essentially, not be stopped..................broken bones u say, tell me how

and as i sated speed will not be any kind of issue in the fight only brute power

Originally posted by Sirius77
No offense, but are you joking? PRE-CRISIS SUPERMAN against Juggernaut? Pre-Crisis Superman sneezed and destroyed an entire galaxy (devoid of life) and travelled 4 trillion lightyears in 3 seconds, not only that but Pre-Crisis Bizzarro threw a punch that sent Pre-Crisis Superman into last week, and Pre-Crisis Bizzarro wasn't even as strong as Pre-Crisis Superman.

Juggernaut MIGHT get away with only a few broken bones if Pre-Crisis Superman allows it.

yea but pre crisis superman was a skyfather level being, playing toss the moon with kara, blow planets with his breath to move them, let alone throw a black orb that weighed 200 trillion tons, trillions of miles away, they likes using trillions of miles back in them days, but man pre crisis was awesome, i bet he's just punch juggernaught through time, causing all sorts of problems for juggernaught to do anything

Originally posted by MattDay
yea but pre crisis superman was a skyfather level being, playing toss the moon with kara, blow planets with his breath to move them, let alone throw a black orb that weighed 200 trillion tons, trillions of miles away, they likes using trillions of miles back in them days, but man pre crisis was awesome, i bet he's just punch juggernaught through time, causing all sorts of problems for juggernaught to do anything

a fight like this wouldnt stay on earth really, juggernaught is going for flying lessons lol

Originally posted by MattDay
yea but pre crisis superman was a skyfather level being, playing toss the moon with kara, blow planets with his breath to move them, let alone throw a black orb that weighed 200 trillion tons, trillions of miles away, they likes using trillions of miles back in them days, but man pre crisis was awesome, i bet he's just punch juggernaught through time, causing all sorts of problems for juggernaught to do anything

Originally posted by newjak86
Ok Pre-Crisis Superman was tough but Skyfather??? 😕
I think that erm gets thrown around too much a SkyFather level being would really just drain Superman of all his strength

you have to see the majority of his feats to then sit back and go yea he's be able to take on skyfather level beings and win, so he is effectively a sky father level hero, dont mistake the two

Originally posted by MattDay
you have to see the majority of his feats to then sit back and go yea he's be able to take on skyfather level beings and win, so he is effectively a sky father level hero, dont mistake the two

Originally posted by newjak86
Ok who has he beaten thats Skyfather level 😕

I mean honestly Silver Surfer is a match for Pre-Crisis Superman and he is way way below a Skyfather being

darksied for one, he beat him, ummm well dang none other rings a bell because he didn't have many enemies in them comics that spring to mind... anyone could you please write a list of his enemies back then cause i don't have an idea of many enemies... you win for the moment galan777... zzzzzzzzzzzz (fell asleep)

Originally posted by MattDay
darksied for one, he beat him, ummm well dang none other rings a bell because he didn't have many enemies in them comics that spring to mind... anyone could you please write a list of his enemies back then cause i don't have an idea of many enemies... you win for the moment galan777... zzzzzzzzzzzz (fell asleep)

As far as I know Darkseid could have easily destroyed Superman if it wasn't for the fact Darkseid needed him to get the Anti-Life Equation

he on occasion out fought him then ran away knowing he outsmarted him, as he had distracted him long enough for his plans to go wrong and such, he was good at that

Originally posted by MattDay
he on occasion out fought him then ran away knowing he outsmarted him, as he had distracted him long enough for his plans to go wrong and such, he was good at that

lol well they always left their fights open ended as to who would of won... heck then the controversial fight that superman won when it came to it says that maybe superman could, but of course for that fight to happen they went through the crisis stages first and then they went and had the fight to the end, but that's something else, lets just say superman can win so can boogernaught

Originally posted by newjak86
Ok Pre-Crisis Superman was tough but Skyfather??? 😕
I think that erm gets thrown around too much a SkyFather level being would really just drain Superman of all his strength