black bolt vs superman

Thanks for the scans (love the artwork in that first one).

Okay.

All these fights do not appear to show any superspeed involved. So the question of how BB would handle an opponent moving at superspeed remains open.*

Superman has also handled Darkseid's Omega Beams, which now begs the question: Is BB's scream more powerful than Ds' Omega Beams? Because if not, than BB's scream will have limited effect on Supes.

Also, just because Gladiator is a clone of Superman doesn't mean he is Superman's equal. For example...
Thor > Gladiator
Superman > Thor (and I understand, that JLAvsAvngrs crossover Is canon); therefore...
Superman > Gladiator

Black Bolt has certainly proven himself formidable. But I still can't see myself giving him the majority...not unless people are ready to admit that BB is the MU Top Dog, meaning he can also defeat Thor and Surfer.

* some scans are not coming through, though "relatively fast" is not Superman fast.

Originally posted by Mindship
Thanks for the scans (love the artwork in that first one).

Okay.

All these fights do not appear to show any superspeed involved. So the question of how BB would handle an opponent moving at superspeed remains open.*

Superman has also handled Darkseid's Omega Beams, which now begs the question: Is BB's scream more powerful than Ds' Omega Beams? Because if not, than BB's scream will have limited effect on Supes.

Also, just because Gladiator is a clone of Superman doesn't mean he is Superman's equal. For example...
Thor > Gladiator
Superman > Thor (and I understand, that JLAvsAvngrs crossover Is canon); therefore...
Superman > Gladiator

Black Bolt has certainly proven himself formidable. But I still can't see myself giving him the majority...not unless people are ready to admit that BB is the MU Top Dog, meaning he can also defeat Thor and Surfer.

* some scans are not coming through, though "relatively fast" is not Superman fast.

would BB's scream and OE be 2 different types of energy? i thought the omega beams only does increda-damage to ppl that arent a significant facotr on the universe or something
factor*
i duno much about the physics of OE though
perhaps someone could edukkate me

and yes i agree, BB hasnt really dealt with people on Superman speed level. which brings into question BB's durability, lazyness overcoming me, ahshdhva3

It is possible that Bb may be able to sap Superman of some energy, though, he has shown the ability to maintain exterme focus (say if he was getting beaten while trying to peform this)

this is him sapping human torch

Originally posted by Mindship
BB takes out a character that Galactus couldn't. Since I know nothing of that Sphinx-Galactus fight, I will try to keep an open mind and suspend judgment until pics of that Galactus-Sphinx fight are posted. Otherwise--and I say this with all due respect--I can't help but smell some PIS (ala Spiderman taking out Firelord).

But assuming it is legit--and I also would like to see that BB vs Gladiator fight--this would imply that Black Bolt can take out Thor and the Surfer; that, indeed, Black Bolt--with the possible exception of Sentry--is Marvel's top dog.

Don't get me wrong--I like Black Bolt...but something just doesn't seem right here.

Thor has already defeated Black Bolt 😉

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
It is possible that Bb may be able to sap Superman of some energy, though, he has shown the ability to maintain exterme focus (say if he was getting beaten while trying to peform this)

this is him sapping human torch

Originally posted by Juntai
And you think he could do that to Supes? lol.

Not completely, which is why i said "may" and "some"
im not saying he could, but i definately wouldnet put it past him

if the thread starter doesn't ban a scream, blackbolt can basically only be beat by skyfather+. there was that comic where blackbolt went up to that cosmic...what was his name? galaxy collector or something? anyway, this guy's thing was to go around absorbing entire galaxies. blackbolt just started to open his mouth, and the dude turned tail.

and don't leave it at "speedblitz", that's just insulting to blackbolt.

Originally posted by manorastroman
and don't leave it at "speedblitz", that's just insulting to blackbolt.

Thor has already defeated Black Bolt

Again, Black Bolt's best--if only option--in beating Superman is to use his voice. And against that, I do see a speedblitz as a legit counter.

Originally posted by Mindship
I agree. Plus, I just plain don't believe that's Superman's only option.

I figured. 😉 Any pics? Or at least: How did Thor do it? I'm pretty sure he didn't resort to Godblast (though I'd also bet BB didn't scream at him, either). Was it the usual fisticuffs, because if that's the case, then if Black Bolt dukes it out with Big Blue, Black Bolt should lose. Even if Black Bolt uses his electron blasts, again, Superman has withstood Omega Beams. Plus, didn't Superman also "withstand a direct blast from Galactus" (Reed Richards)?

Again, Black Bolt's best--if only option--in beating Superman is to use his voice. And against that, I do see a speedblitz as a legit counter.

Here is the only fight between them that I could find:

http://img133.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=78bd0_verthor1.jpg
http://img107.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=67a61_verthor2.jpg
http://img21.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=7169a_verthor3.jpg
http://img16.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=c1faa_verthor4.jpg
http://img129.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=82813_verthor5.jpg
http://img111.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=b354a_verthor6.jpg

It seems like BB's antenna is a bit of a liability.

Thanks, TheKahn

Now, we just cut out Thor's hammer (which was being used here as a club, not as an energy weilder), paste in Supes' fist (or heat vision)...and there's your Superman vs Black Bolt fight (at least one version, anyway).

For that matter, Hulk could've done this too, perhaps even the Thing.