Originally posted by Mr MasterSuperman has been inside of a black holes and escaped... he's been inside of a double black hole and escaped, held black holes in his hands. Closed rips in the time/space by rubbing his hands together. He carries the Bad Mothe****er wallet.
It's Negative Space, the inside of a Black Hole.Reed has seen alot for anything to surprise him.
Reed couldn't believe that someone could even touch Negative Space and survive let alone dive right into it head first, enter inside and come back out unharmed,
but he did say "it hurts" when Reed asked him, "what does it feel like to enter Negative Space"...
Sentry caught a CCU with his hands, and held it against it's will for a short while.
Like I said before, this is a thing that can take Eternity's place.
It's an impressive feat to say the least.
Entropy is all consuming, it is the end of all things. Even it far more of an absolute than a black hole is. Superman survived in it for a short period, then Waverider showed up to sustain him and take him back to his time period. I would consider that more impressive.
Originally posted by Juntai
Superman has been inside of a black holes and escaped... he's been inside of a double black hole and escaped, held black holes in his hands. Closed rips in the time/space by rubbing his hands together. He carries the Bad Mothe****er wallet.
You trumped the Negative Space feat but...
Non of these feats compare to holding a raw Cosmic Cube in your hands against it's will.
Originally posted by Juntai
Entropy is all consuming, it is the end of all things. Even it far more of an absolute than a black hole is. Superman survived in it for a short period, then Waverider showed up to sustain him and take him back to his time period. I would consider that more impressive.
It's definitely comparable, but Sentry wasn't hurt by the Cube even while it tried to break his hold...
From the sound of it, Superman would of died had it not been for Waverider.
Thoughts?
BATDUDE, I have a question for you, What puts Superman above Sentry and please don't say feats because Sentry hasn't been around long enough to accomplish as many feats as Superman so thats a little unfair. Besides the feats, theres nothing that suggests Superman would "clean up Sentry quite nicely" or vice-versa so what you're saying is just foundationless as what everyone is saying about Sentry beating Superman. Truthfully their not in the same universes and they don't abide by the same comicbook laws so it's just assumed they are close to each other strength wise.
Another thing that I hate is when people bring up King Hyperion and his words about killing Galactus, Hercules, Thor and Hulk. We didn't see Galactus' death on-panel yet it's so widely accepted but when someone brings up Sentry stalemating Galactus is bs. Why? Hyperion said all that stuff HIMSELF , noone vouched for him but Spiderman said Sentry stalemated Galactus, the honest, friendly neighborhood Spiderman said it and people say it's BS. Aunt May didn't raise Peter to be a liar!!! People just don't to believe that Sentry can be Marvel's mightiest hero, they just want him to be average.
Originally posted by rotiart
Sentry would go headsup with superman... but superman 1 million is like sun dipped superman getting sundipped...1 million would kill sentry.
yea no doubt about that, but I don't know why Batdude claims that Sentry would be disposed of by Superman easily, there's just no proof of that.
Originally posted by Longinus
yea no doubt about that, but I don't know why Batdude claims that Sentry would be disposed of by Superman easily, there's just no proof of that.
So far there is no proof either for or against sentry being superman level. But design wise.. he's superman for marvel. There just havent' been the feats to prove it yet. only "hearsay" as stated by characters like dr. strange and spiderman and mr. fantastic...
Originally posted by rotiart
So far there is no proof either for or against sentry being superman level. But design wise.. he's superman for marvel. There just havent' been the feats to prove it yet. only "hearsay" as stated by characters like dr. strange and spiderman and mr. fantastic...
Sentry does have some feats like,
1 shotting Ironman
Beating Void, who broke Hulk's bones
Physically Hulk is on Supes lvls, and since Sentry=Void and Void is above Hulk I'd put him on Supes lvl strength wise and add in his versatality I'd say he's on Supes lvl. Not above or below but on his lvl.
if this is a hypothetical sentry with a far greater understanding of his powers (as well as the control that would follow), i think he would have a chance.
the void DID bust a shield that was the combined might of invisible womans shield, iron mans full strength repulsor, and DOCTOR STRANGE's mystical barrier.
seriously, that's pretty nuts. doctor strange's shield alone has withstood things that make a superman punch feel like a tickle.
on a side note, this anti-sentry stuff i'm getting from the DC camp is kinda bugging me. yeah superman has some ri-cock-ulous feats, but MOST OF THE TIME he's written to be less powerful. he would still rock just abound any earthbound in marvel, but considering how long sentry has been around and some of the stuff he/void has done...
like i said, if sentry had control over the void and wasn't so prone to mental breakdown, i can picture him at skyfather.
here's another way to look at it: the existence of the void is basically subconscious reality manipulation. since the void is clearly sentry but also clearly a separate being on the physical plane, sentry had to in some way CREATE a being with the power to crush hulk as well as the combined might of the avengers, x-men, f4, inhumans, doc strange, etc.
holy crap, i mean galactus' most powerful creation is only a bit above that level.
Originally posted by manorastromansorry but he wouldnt be at a level with odin, or argueably a level with thanos.
if this is a hypothetical sentry with a far greater understanding of his powers (as well as the control that would follow), i think he would have a chance.the void DID bust a shield that was the combined might of invisible womans shield, iron mans full strength repulsor, and DOCTOR STRANGE's mystical barrier.
seriously, that's pretty nuts. doctor strange's shield alone has withstood things that make a superman punch feel like a tickle.
on a side note, this anti-sentry stuff i'm getting from the DC camp is kinda bugging me. yeah superman has some ri-cock-ulous feats, but MOST OF THE TIME he's written to be less powerful. he would still rock just abound any earthbound in marvel, but considering how long sentry has been around and some of the stuff he/void has done...
like i said, if sentry had control over the void and wasn't so prone to mental breakdown, i can picture him at skyfather.
sentry would totally **** superman prime. i million isnt even that powerful. when looking at superman one million's record u shoul look at both high and low end feats and create an average power level. now look at sentry, he has practically NO low end feats making his average and hence real power level far greater than superman i million. even now he can beat superman. with a greater awareness of his power and the power of the void i wouldnt be surprised if he took on sub abstract power level. remember the void's psionic power completely rewrote the entire universe to let all beings but the abstracts forget the very existance of sentry. thats not sumthin even superman prime could do.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
sentry would totally **** superman prime. i million isnt even that powerful. when looking at superman one million's record u shoul look at both high and low end feats and create an average power level. now look at sentry, he has practically NO low end feats making his average and hence real power level far greater than superman i million. even now he can beat superman. with a greater awareness of his power and the power of the void i wouldnt be surprised if he took on sub abstract power level. remember the void's psionic power completely rewrote the entire universe to let all beings but the abstracts forget the very existance of sentry. thats not sumthin even superman prime could do.
We are talking about Superman 1m. Superman 1million!! Not superman prime.