High Father/Darkseid vs. Zeus/Odin

Dude, DS and Highfather both destroyed the source wall. I dont really know what more anyone can say, you either accept DS and Highfathers feats or you can decide to negate them in favor of "marvel bias". The facts are right there in front of you, and nothing u say can change that.

Now I dont exaclty feel like getting into the whole "supes vs odin" debate, but if superman was written to his full potential (PC supes, Supes 1m, AS Supes, SBP) then I think he could match someone like Odin failry well. Supes has had feats that are comparable to a lot of high tier skyfather characters so i dont think i was that out of line.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
I'm pretty sure there's BS behind this. I'll consult people who know what they're talking about and get back to you.

How is there bs? The scan is right above you, friend. Your not seeing something that isn't there, lol.

Originally posted by Sirius77
How is there bs? The scan is right above you, friend. Your not seeing something that isn't there, lol.

Dude, DS and Highfather both destroyed the source wall. I dont really know what more anyone can say, you either accept DS and Highfathers feats or you can decide to negate them in favor of "marvel bias". The facts are right there in front of you, and nothing u say can change that.

Translation:

Whine, whine, ***** *****.

I thinK SUPES BEATS THANOS.

Your views have no value to anyone who knows anything about comics.

Now I dont exaclty feel like getting into the whole "supes vs odin" debate, but if superman was written to his full potential (PC supes, Supes 1m, AS Supes, SBP) then I think he could match someone like Odin failry well. Supes has had feats that are comparable to a lot of high tier skyfather characters so i dont think i was that out of line.

PC Superman is not his potential.

PC Superman was an inconsistent plot device who is a joke for how ridiculous and idiotic he is.

SBP and All-Star Superman both are stronger than Superman of New Earth just as alternate versions of characters vary in power.

Oh and no, Supes has nothing Skyfather level.

How is there bs? The scan is right above you, friend. Your not seeing something that isn't there, lol.

I also see repeated mentions of Darkseid avatars.

Which mostly don't exist.

We know of I think once or twice when they were used. Every other time is conjecture.

Yes, Doomsday WTFpwned the real Darkseid. Unless you can provide the source saying DS was an avatar in that story?

Oops. You can't. Thanks for playing.

Anyway, people here are known for taking scans out of context or outright altering the scans.

So, why should I take it at face value?

Why not just post Darkseid beating Orion and Firestorm? I mean, sure it SOUNDS impressive but Orion in that story was a weak-ass.

Context to a scan is the key. Not the scan itself.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
I also see repeated mentions of Darkseid avatars.

Which mostly don't exist.

We know of I think once or twice when they were used. Every other time is conjecture.

Yes, Doomsday WTFpwned the real Darkseid. Unless you can provide the source saying DS was an avatar in that story?

Oops. You can't. Thanks for playing.

Anyway, people here are known for taking scans out of context or outright altering the scans.

So, why should I take it at face value?

Appearently you haven't been reading dc comics lately...

Darkseid now has a portion of the ale and the full omega force. He is his pc self again. Most of his low feats have been retconned away along with the old dcu. New earth brought back some of the pc abilities of dc characters. So, no, that is not the same darkseid that was hurt by dd. But even if it was, it's not a bad feat, considering it took the force of the entropy of the big bang that made the dcu to temporarily stop (not so much as kill because he basically came right back in a different form, lol) dd.

So, no, I didn't take the scans out of context, you just refuse to believe what is in front of you because you don't like it. 🙂

Darkseid now has a portion of the ale and the full omega force. He is his pc self again. Most of his low feats have been retconned away along with the old dcu. New earth brought back some of the pc abilities of dc characters. So, no, that is not the same darkseid that was hurt by dd. But even if it was, it's not a bad feat, considering it took the force of the entropy of the big bang that made the dcu to temporarily stop (not so much as kill because he basically came right back in a different form, lol) dd.

Blah blah blah. Lost to Superman. nice.

Oh and Doomsday DIED in Entropy until Zero Hour changed things.

So, no, I didn't take the scans out of context, you just refuse to believe what is in front of you because you don't like it.

Blah blah blah. No context still.

You are thus flatly refusing to even own up to having a clue what happened in that issue the scan is from?

Also why does Darkseid combining power with Highfather breaking the Source Wall > galaxy-busting?

What powerful persons and attacks has the Source Wall fended off?

You'r really in denial about this whole thing for some reason, the evidence is right in front of you. Current DS is basically at his PC self. He is easily above Odin at this point so deal with it. Oh and PC supes is considered to ba skyfather character, even if he is on the lower end of the list it doesnt change the fact that his power is still "skyfather"level. Read up on some DC and come back with some sensible points...because you're really coming off as a fanboy now.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Also why does Darkseid combining power with Highfather breaking the Source Wall > galaxy-busting?

What powerful persons and attacks has the Source Wall fended off?

It's beyond Odin's power to break the wall. And as for what it's resisted, try the old gods and promethean giants, including Yuga Khan.

Zeus and Odin win this due to Odin being that damn good. I mean really Odin would tear them up let alone the help he has here and its a ten outta ten affair.

According to someone who isn't sucking DS' schlong.

Oh, well the source was already dying at that point, due to Darkseid forcing his way in earlier.

The scan explains it pretty well...the difference is that while the Prometheans came as invaders, they came as saviors.

Not comparable.

Yeah but he wont care...because according to him its not "galaxy destroying". DS is beyong galaxy destroying dude.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
According to someone who isn't sucking DS' schlong.

Ahem. Darkseid forced his way into the source. That's not a feat in your eyes? 😕

Since it was with Highfather's power, the Source was dying and the duo came to save it and not invade it, it doesn't seem like one.

The Old Gods and such tried invading a not dying Source.

So like he said, not comparable.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Yeah but he wont care...because according to him its not "galaxy destroying". DS is beyong galaxy destroying dude.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ahem. Darkseid forced his way into the source. That's not a feat in your eyes? 😕

Originally posted by quanchi112
I saw the page it let them in becuz it was dying it wasnt like they forced there way in there. Actually read it and then youd realize this.

Different feat.

Darkseid's life-force causes The Source itself agony, forcing it to open itself to him. In the process, he also became the first being ever to successfully bully his or her way into The Source:
http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f9143934jpgorig1oz.jpg

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Since it was with Highfather's power, the Source was dying and the duo came to save it and not invade it, it doesn't seem like one.

The Old Gods and such tried invading a not dying Source.

So like he said, not comparable.

it's not a feat for them busting the source, since the Source let them in. the feat is in their power being able to fix the Source. That's a massive power feat.