Originally posted by sailorleo
i dunno how it's gonna get hotter?
I can think of one.....sexual encounter implied.....since it's Disney we won't actually see this...but it can be implied....
But I'm having doubts again today....somedays I'm all about...yeah, Disney wouldn't put all these clues in pOTc2 that point to a jack/liz pairing and then totally ignore it in movie 3....and then I have days like today...where I'm like..oh no...this was all to just spin our heads around and make us think they'll put jack and liz together when in acutality it was just a ploy so will and liz can come to see how much they love each other.....i will be so 😠 if this is how it turns out....i'm not sure I'll watch movie 3 trillions of times like I do and will 1 and 2.... 🙁
Originally posted by lovethemtigers
Okay LovelyOne I've always been a fan of some of your theories and thoughts....but I'm not liking the Will killing Liz and Jack killing Will...I think that may be a little too drastic for Disney....I know they said the movie will be darker and more adult....but killing off two of the main characters ( and then Tia bringing them back.?????)....I'm not sure I'm going to like POTC 3 if everybody is left immortal....all of these threads are getting to be so detailed and so thought out - it's tiring my brain....and I don't want Liz to got back to Will. I'm ditto with what Katelovespirate says...if Liz gets killed I'm leaving the theatre...if Will and Liz marry and Jack sacrifices his love for her I will cry my eyes out....the only happy ending for me - as far as I'm concerned....is Jack and Liz sailing away together of the Black Pearl into that Horizon.....as for Will...I really don't care what happens to him at this point...I'm beginning to get frustrated...i'm starting to hope Will does turn evil and nasty...and cuts his heart out.....arggggg I don't know what I want...except that Jack and Liz must be together and end POTC 3 with an even hotter kiss than the one we saw in POTC 2.....
Maybe the stabbing of the heart is more symbolic then..as in Will is gong to hurt her heart VERY badly..he may do something that is so horrible..to her or to someone else that she will never be able to forgive him.
For some reason I can just imagine Disney doing something really stupid like making Will/Liz out to be a tradgey and then Jack decides it would have been better if he never met them..so Calypso/circe the witch makes them forget.. 🙄 hope to god disney dont sell out..
No I didnt mean they are going to be left immortal..I just mean I think Tia is Calypso..and she is trying to make Jack a god so he can be her equal..but Jack is going to refuse..I have a feeling she is trying to get rid of his ties to the mortal life..once they are gone I bet she will be thinking Jack will chose to be a god with her..but he wont. He will refuse and try to save Liz and maybe Will..Its not really the best ending if they do that but if Jack decides its the best thing to do..then the audience will back up his decision..which kinda sucks..
Maybe he wont kill Will..remember this is all just a crazy theory of mine..I cant really base it on anything except what I see with Calypso and Circe the witch in the Odyssey..The fact that they all took the witches drink at the end of movie 2 and liz didn't drink from it might mean something later on..If Tia/Calypso agrees to make the characters forget..I think its going to be everyone but Liz and Jack who forget...because they are the ones who didn't drink at the end of movie 2..everyone else did...so maybe by movie 3 Will is going to forget everything about Liz, Jack etc.
they were toasting and saying goodbye to Jack as they drank..and Liz is the only one who DID NOT DRINK. 😂 She doesn't want it to be the end with Jack.
in the Odyssey Circe the witch gives out a drug in drinks to make people forget their past..and I seriously think that its symbolic in that scene..that She is going to do this later on in movie 3...and Liz is going to want to stay with Jack...whist everyone else forgets
everyone was drinking from it to ease their pain of Jack being gone..
[Tia carries a tray around to all of them, offers the mugs to
Elizabeth]
TIA DALMA
Against de cold... and de sorrow.
[Elizabeth takes a mug but doesn't drink]
Liz wont drink from it..she doesn't want to ease the pain..she doesn't want to forget..
GIBBS
Aye. And already the world seems a bit
less bright. He fooled us all right
to the end. But I guess that honest
streak finally won out. To Jack Sparrow!
RAGETTI
Never another like Captain Jack.
PINTEL
He was a gentleman of fortune, he was.
ELIZABETH SWANN
He was a good man.
[they all take a drink out of their mugs, except Elizabeth]
everyone is ready to move on..But Liz is not in my opinion..
then people say oh we could bring him back..and she suddenly perks up.
In the Odyssey Circe does the exact same thing with drinks..but one person does not drink..he goes back to Odysseus...who is actually absent from the scene..
I'm not saying Tia has drugged those drinks..I just think it might be symbolic. It might be echoed and tia/Calypso might offer Jack the chance for people to forget him..Liz wont..but everyone else will..just a guess though.
he might say yes let evryone forget me..but Liz is a pirate at heart..she will probably leave Will even if they forgot everything..she's never gonna be happy with that life..that might be where he decides to let Liz be the only one who doesn't forget him.
I also think that she didnt drink because she's the one who "knows" he didn't go down fighting She thinks she gave him a cowards death, everyone else thinks he did die fighting....she robbed him of it. So she might be feeling as if she should have given him the chance to do that for her/them...so she's not ready to say goodbye..she wants him back.
When circe changes the people she made forget back from animals (after she drugged them to make them forget she turned them into pigs..but then brought them back at the request of odysseus)..they come back better looking, stronger and happier than they were before..