Originally posted by Acrosurge
Not sure about this. The new Herald of Galactus Surfer would take a majority against Orion, but I'm not sure how he or Thor would do against Takion. I need to know a bit more about Thor's current levels before I make a decision.
More than likely, Takion would block Silver Surfer from making a move against Orion. Orion would go after Thor.
Seems as if a post that puts two even DC characters against two Marvel Characters doesn't get alot of response. Is this forum Marvel Biased? I see threads that actually have Wolverine against Superman like that makes sense at all.
Orion would put a smack down on Thor the likes Thor has never experienced. and Takion would show The Silver Surfer what it feels like to fight a being who is Godly, magical, and cosmic, all at the same time.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Seems as if a post that puts two even DC characters against two Marvel Characters doesn't get alot of response. Is this forum Marvel Biased? I see threads that actually have Wolverine against Superman like that makes sense at all.Orion would put a smack down on Thor the likes Thor has never experienced. and Takion would show The Silver Surfer what it feels like to fight a being who is Godly, magical, and cosmic, all at the same time.
*laughs* Judging by your post, you seem a bit DC biased.
Not to mention, even if you WERE right, this would be spite.
However, I feel you are severly underestimating Thor and the Surfer here.
from what i'd know of him Takion would beat SS and Thor alone. he'd be able to dampen the power cosmic in SS and/or manipulate for himself. Basically, he'd turn his own power against him. He easily beat GL, CA, and Flash. he's the new Highfather. and Thor wouldn't be able to do anything to him. anything he did he'd be able to counter.
Originally posted by Soljer
*laughs* Judging by your post, you seem a bit DC biased.Not to mention, even if you WERE right, this would be spite.
However, I feel you are severly underestimating Thor and the Surfer here.
I dont' under estimate Thor and Silver Surfer. Together, They can deliver a hell of a one two punch. But Against Orion and Takion. They would have met thier match or maybe even thier Betters.
Originally posted by Superherovandal
Takion is definitely better than SS. he's skyfather level easy. hed solo it.
Takion is a bit stronger than Sky Father right? I thought Surfer was too. Surfer had the nerve to even super cede Odin's wishes and Synthetically enhance the Odin Force with the power cosmic. If Dc could get thier Super heads out of thier butts and give thier other cool characters some page time, they might actually be as cool as Marvel.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlThat's not an effective bit of convincing, my friend. However, I've done a bit of research on Takion. He seems to be a Highfather level guy (though not Skyfather or Odin level). He and Orion should be able to take a majority over Thor and Surfer.
Takion can Beat The entire Avengers By himself if he liked.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Takion is a bit stronger than Sky Father right? I thought Surfer was too. Surfer had the nerve to even super cede Odin's wishes and Synthetically enhance the Odin Force with the power cosmic. If Dc could get thier Super heads out of thier butts and give thier other cool characters some page time, they might actually be as cool as Marvel.
DC skyfathers are nothing compared to Marvel skyfathers, particularly Odin. Surfer teamed up with Thanos against Odin and got utterly creamed. Takion is just a surfer clone and chances are they are not that different in power. Orion is meant to be a counter to Thor but Thor's powers are not dependent on machines or a hammer. If Takion is able to stalemate Surfer (maybe, maybe not), then Thor destroys Orions machines, electrocutes him and crushes his skull, and finally, one shot's Takion, who while concentrating fully on fighting off the Surfer is unable to evade, with the hammer.
Originally posted by aliveinboston
DC skyfathers are nothing compared to Marvel skyfathers, particularly Odin. Surfer teamed up with Thanos against Odin and got utterly creamed. Takion is just a surfer clone and chances are they are not that different in power. Orion is meant to be a counter to Thor but Thor's powers are not dependent on machines or a hammer. If Takion is able to stalemate Surfer (maybe, maybe not), then Thor destroys Orions machines, electrocutes him and crushes his skull, and finally, one shot's Takion, who while concentrating fully on fighting off the Surfer is unable to evade, with the hammer.
MOther Box cannot be destroyed, and Orion is stated to only get exausted after weeks of battling Darkseid and Kalibak. Thor is not on thier lvl. At least not Darksieds. You really dont' know much about Takion or Orion. SO maybe you should let those of us who do debate this one ok.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
MOther Box cannot be destroyed, and Orion is stated to only get exausted after weeks of battling Darkseid and Kalibak. Thor is not on thier lvl. At least not Darksieds. You really dont' know much about Takion or Orion. SO maybe you should let those of us who do debate this one ok.
Motherbox cannot be destroyed by who? Can the beyonder destroy motherbox? As for Takion, he is just a surfer clone. Surely you acknowledge this. As for DC skyfathers, they have never been shown to be anything more than chumps. Even mighty Darkseid gets banged up by Superman on a regular basis.
Originally posted by aliveinboston
Motherbox cannot be destroyed by who? Can the beyonder destroy motherbox? As for Takion, he is just a surfer clone. Surely you acknowledge this. As for DC skyfathers, they have never been shown to be anything more than chumps. Even mighty Darkseid gets banged up by Superman on a regular basis.
DC is now in a state of Continuity revamp. I'm betting Superman hasn't beaten anything more than a Darkseid avatar. ANd yes, Dc's Sky Fathers are very powerful indeed. Zues's fellow gods made WW and she is as powerful as Thor. Zues is far beyond thor or WW. Shazam created CM and he is close to Mordru in power. HighFather is the very embodiment of all highfathers and it is even stated that the very least of new genesis is higher than the very highest of any of the other Pantheons. Takion's origins and powers are so differnt from Surfer. But one could say that Sentry or Gladiator are Superman Clones. it's all up to personal interpretation.