I am afraid I have to go against the popular concensus on this issue, Akuma can't kill the entire SC cast on his own, not by a long shot, and not when you consider just how many guys there really are in SC2 and 3. not to mention the sheer power of some of thier characters, the 3 final bosses (Inferno boss of Soul Blade and Soul Caliburs 1 and 2, Abyss Boss of Soul Calibur 3, and Night Terror Secret Boss of Soul Calibur 3)
Originally posted by Creshosk
Dude... Nightmare IS SiegfriedAnyway, Street Fighter should take this. Even if some of the SC are better than some of the SF over all SF beats SC...
WOW!!!! That just showed how much bad information you have.
Siegfried was once Nightmare he and Nightmare are now two different people.
Originally posted by TallisYou're saying people don't know what they're talking about, but it really only seems you don't. Why in the hell isn't Shin Akuma canon, if all it is IS Akuma not holding back?
WOW!!!! That just showed how much bad information you have.Siegfried was once Nightmare he and Nightmare are now two different people.
He's partially right though. In Soul Calibur 3, Seigfried broke free from Soul Edge's control, thats when he stabbed the demon blade with Soul Calibur, causing the power of both weapons to seal eachother.
At the same time, the concsious spirit of Soul Edge Escaped the demon blade as it was sealed and made it's way into the shattered Azure armour Siegfried tore off from himself when he was freed from it's control (the armour of Nightmare).
After waiting for a few weeks Zasalamel appeared, and exchanged a wordless conversation with it and agreed to help it. after casting a series of spells, the armour rose up on it's own and a new bizzarely shaped sword appeared in it's hand.
So in fact, the new Nightmare is Soul Edges living conciousness, it still feeds on souls, but it does seek to return to it's original body, and searches for a new host to carry the demon weapon once it recovers it's former body and power.
Nightmare now chases Sigfried, who is carrying the sealed forms of both Soul Edge and Soul Calibur with him on a journey to permanently destroy the Demon Weapon.
Alright. Yes, Shin Akuma is Akuma, there is no distinction bitween the characters.
The only time this is not true is during Capcom vs SNK 2, where Akuma received an additional increase in power by receiving the Orochi power.
And Cyber Akuma receiving his upgrades from Apocalipse.
Other than that, Shin Akuma has Always been and will always be Akuma, just without limitation or restraint.
Wonderful, you compared an unproven ability (no one knows if the island was sunk) of a god-tier in Street Fighter to a high-tier character's feat from Soul Calibur.
Devastating a vast region by powering up to a next transformation while raining down meteors of fair sizes and epic proportions (Abyss) >>> "island-sinking punches". 😉
That's correct for the most part. You do even a minimal amount of research on the technique (Kongo Kokuretsu Zan) used to destroy the island you'll find out from nearly every source that it's a technique where Akuma channels most of his energy into his fist. Why would it be described as that if Akuma can just throw these left and right during a fight? 😬 Why has he only used it on something he couldn't miss and not on an opponent? Probably because it isn't so effective in battle unless you're weak enough to get effected by just being in the area he's punching. And why, can't we state the obvious that the island crumbled? Why do we see it crumbling throughout the entire ending and Ryu saying it's disappearing? You think he would ask that if the island was sinking? 😂
As for the video of Abyss' feat it's hard as hell to find on youtube. This is sad. 😬
Originally posted by shin_remyOMFG!!! haermm crylaugh
exactlySC is high to overrated!!
i Have to the most comics, all animes, 80% of ALL the SF GAmes, that is very MUCH, spend Thousends of Dollars on SF, play tournaments, talk with sf peeps on my msn over the whole world and NO NOOBS!!
so YES i do know what i'm talking about and Top Tiers of SF kills all Soul Calibur Characters!!
Many...posts in this thread were funny, though I'm not stating who's was. I don't want to be...suspected.
Made a slight mistake. It wasn't Zasalamel powering up before he did that. It was him being infused with the power of both Soul Edge and Soul Calibur (not at their prime). That is what caused the destruction of the region where he's fought. He's a powerhouse who can fly, has space-compressing attacks and can even levitate his scythe around.
Abyss is basically the weaker version of Night Terror.
Oh and one more thing. You see, I used to hear counter-arguments from SF fans saying ok well, if people like the Vigoor Emperor etc. can destroy all this and yet not manage to destroy some weakling like Hayabusa, how will it be effective? To be honest I don't see the vast difference between that and asking if Akuma can destroy an island while not managing to destroy Ryu in the process, how will that be effective?
Apparent answer to both: bosses such as these have not used the same methods to pull off vast feats (like destroying islands, places of the world, etc. all in short periods of time) on their opponents; in other words they weren't aimed at. I hope this is obvious to everyone since people like Hayabusa, Ryu, and Siegfried cannot withstand the destruction of vast regions. 😬
That or companies are pretty stupid, though I think my theory is better.
Sorry about the triple post. I thought my time between my posts have finished.
Examples of their power are exactly what they are. Now about Akuma's technique being effective in battle, it would be of course to opponents who can't keep managing to dodge it, and that goes for every move that a character has.
I recently found out that we (as in most people here) go mostly by power and durability feats and usually ignore things such as characters' speed and experience.
Wonderful, you compared an unproven ability (no one knows if the island was sunk) of a god-tier in Street Fighter to a high-tier character's feat from Soul Calibur.
It's a fact, actually.
Just the SF n00bs deny it.
You are claiming it didn't happen then?
Disputing canon?
Nice.
That's correct for the most part. You do even a minimal amount of research on the technique (Kongo Kokuretsu Zan) used to destroy the island you'll find out from nearly every source that it's a technique where Akuma channels most of his energy into his fist
I see you're taking the Sado22/Shin-gear "We'll lie and speculate" approach.
I dare you to find a single canon source saying that was the technique he used on the island.
And no, Wikipedia doesn't count.
Why has he only used it on something he couldn't miss and not on an opponent?
I presume because it would kill most people and Akuma wants at least a bit of a fight. That's why he isn't Shin.
And as people who know things have already told you, Akuma wasn't Shin when he performed the feat and had just fought Ryu. So, the speculation "he used all his power in that blow" is completely baseless.
Like everything else the SF haters say.