ION vs Silver Surfer

Originally posted by Juntai
Assuming he's anything like the old ION, and the book points to him being even more powerful, it's a wipe. His constructs can create constructs that can beat Surfer 10/10.

But yes, I see what you're saying.

Without ANY showings of current ION, I'll use the old one.

Even at low end output tho, Drawing from both the infinite magic of the Starheart and the willpower of everything in existance in The OA Battery, he's effectively -far- beyond a GL, and should have little trouble with Surfer.

I agree, what the real Ion has in store after hatching is to be determined.

I'm siding with ION, but until I get more information or a better understanding of current ION's power then I will decide.

plus he's a reality bender and all

Originally posted by Jesse7
Mungi, it doesnt matter if Ion just came out of the source, people would still be claiming SS can beat him.

you do realize surfer has access to wolverine? right?

Ion 10/10

OG Ion is actually more powerful than Parallax since his power wasn't stolen.

The new Ion destroyed a galactic fleet in his sleep. Not a bad beginning.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Ion 10/10

OG Ion is actually more powerful than Parallax since his power wasn't stolen.

The new Ion destroyed a galactic fleet in his sleep. Not a bad beginning.

Originally posted by bigbran
you do realize surfer has access to wolverine? right?

Good fight...

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Good fight...

No its not Ion wins everytime any Ion.

The spectre only address two people as his eqaul and one was the original ion and the second the phantom stranger. he see all other cosmic entities as his inferior and we all know that the spectre is not going to address surfer as his equal hell he is not even going to address galactus as his equal. original ion was onmipotent and onmipresent plus reality wraping powers. he existed in every time line

Originally posted by hunbu04
The spectre only address two people as his eqaul and one was the original ion and the second the phantom stranger. he see all other cosmic entities as his inferior and we all know that the spectre is not going to address surfer as his equal hell he is not even going to address galactus as his equal. original ion was onmipotent and onmipresent plus reality wraping powers. he existed in every time line

Woahhhhhhhhhh buddy lets not get carried away i cant really remember the dialogue that well but i am sure he didn't say old Ion was his equal more like he was treating him with respect as if they were equal might be wrong though.

Yo.

Originally posted by Supreme being
No its not Ion wins everytime any Ion.

seeing as current Ion hasnt done much of anything to illustrate how/if he's more powerful than yur standard GL, Id say this is MORE than a bit misleading.

original flavor Ion would take 11/10 tho, thats not even a question.

Originally posted by Supreme being
Woahhhhhhhhhh buddy lets not get carried away i cant really remember the dialogue that well but i am sure he didn't say old Ion was his equal more like he was treating him with respect as if they were equal might be wrong though.

mostly correct, altho he wasnt necessarily treating him as an equal inasmuch as he was simply being respectful.

Tazer

Originally posted by Juntai
Assuming he's anything like the old ION, and the book points to him being even more powerful, it's a wipe. His constructs can create constructs that can beat Surfer 10/10.

But yes, I see what you're saying.

Without ANY showings of current ION, I'll use the old one.

Even at low end output tho, Drawing from both the infinite magic of the Starheart and the willpower of everything in existance in The OA Battery, he's effectively -far- beyond a GL, and should have little trouble with Surfer.

LOL,

No showings to illustrate his power over SS and he gets 10/10 wins?

what I DONT like is when people overrate a character to exagerated proportions such as SS.

Like everyone on this forum that overrates Darkseid, including yourself

Originally posted by Soleran
LOL,

No showings to illustrate his power over SS and he gets 10/10 wins?

Originally posted by Juntai
Did you read my post or skim through it?
Also take note that this is from when Kyle first became ION again.

Yup I read your post, clearly. However the thread creator never said the "old ion" you just posted your descion based on the old ion.

Regardless it doesn't do much for the original question of the thread creator.

old or new ion wins in a stomp.

Yo.

theres no proof Ions more powerful than old GL-Kyle, so I think making that comment is unfairly prejudiced.

and thats coming from a dedicated, and for a LONG TIME, GL-fan

Tazer

unipower surfer wins

Yo.

Originally posted by xmeat
unipower surfer wins

against which Ion tho??

Tazer

Current surfer vs Current Ion--Surfer 7/10

I love kyle and have watched him since he was introduced.he is one of my favorites,his new series is over and while i liked it alot.it did not Awe me with his power display's,
But i know writing does make a difference

Surfer-Experience and cosmic awareness will give him the edge

Ion original-9/10

Its just the writers point of view,i think the new ion is getting to balace out his powers,we wont see him debating trying to do everything and be all powerfull,because that was his flaw when he originaly became Ion

Its the same problem the phoenix has,when you are grounded in human stories and the character is shown to human Qualities and is vulnerable or is seen as weaker at times,Lets see where Ion goes from here, i think they will be giving him more and more as he grows as a character

Just being fair i actually prefer Ion as a character but i have been reading surfer forever