Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
See, those scans, if by pure strength, just prove the that version of Onslaught has more power in his two fingers than Thor does in the Godblast.
Onslaught may be powerful, but he was fought by Hulk, not a psionically gifted character.
so Onslaught isn't exactly in the "Galactus leagues" is he?
he's powerful enough to physically stomp on juggernaut, that's all.
Originally posted by janus77
and that juggernaut is not "invulnerable" not "unstoppable", basically not very indestructible at all.Onslaught may be powerful, but he was fought by Hulk, not a psionically gifted character.
so Onslaught isn't exactly in the "Galactus leagues" is he?
he's powerful enough to physically stomp on juggernaut, that's all.
Onslaught didn't physically pinch the Gem out of his chest. Onslaught has reality warping powers as well as all sorts of mental powers. So he willed the Gem there and basically warped reality to pull it out of Cain's chest.
That moment alone is PIS. And on KMC only the best moments are considered in a fight like this. Because Juggernaut has taken far worse than that.
Also Marvel says that He magnetically threw Juggs to NJ.
Holy crap, I can't believe I forgot this!
That was not a fully powered Juggernaut. Before that incident Cain was in a different Dimension (All New Exiles) that drained his power significantly. So he wasn't his good ole invulnerable self during that incident. So when he returned he was greeted by his ever loving step brother.
Later his powers were returned to him after he escaped the ruby.
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Onslaught didn't physically pinch the Gem out of his chest. Onslaught has reality warping powers as well as all sorts of mental powers. So he willed the Gem there and basically warped reality to pull it out of Cain's chest.That moment alone is PIS. And on KMC only the best moments are considered in a fight like this. Because Juggernaut has taken far worse than that.
Also Marvel says that He magnetically threw Juggs to NJ.
Originally posted by janus77
magnetism is a physical force.
repulsion/attraction of material substances...
my point stands.
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Holy crap, I can't believe I forgot this!That was not a fully powered Juggernaut. Before that incident Cain was in a different Dimension (All New Exiles) that drained his power significantly. So he wasn't his good ole invulnerable self during that incident. So when he returned he was greeted by his ever loving step brother.
Later his powers were returned to him after he escaped the ruby.
magnetism is not a physical force, it has no physical manifestation.
Why do people make threads like this then use PIS's to back it up, Onslaught (although a cool character) was subject to the worst writing in a long time....
This is basically saying Captain america vs Hulk Physically, Hulk obviously would win but Captain America beat him that in a comic, the same comic where he died from a bullet... Then again Captain America has also made Onslaught bleed so...
Moral of story, DONT USE PIS's as "evidence"
And about "magnetically throwing Juggy"
It wouldnt work...
Originally posted by Hannibal-Lector
Why do people make threads like this then use PIS's to back it up, Onslaught (although a cool character) was subject to the worst writing in a long time....
This is basically saying Captain america vs Hulk Physically, Hulk obviously would win but Captain America beat him that in a comic, the same comic where he died from a bullet... Then again Captain America has also made Onslaught bleed so...Moral of story, DONT USE PIS's as "evidence"
And about "magnetically throwing Juggy"
It wouldnt work...
That pic is from a What if? comic. Plus where talking Onslaught over Mags.
Originally posted by janus77
if Onslaught is "purely psionic" then how did Hulk manage to hit him?
does Hulk emit psionic energies in his punches?
I could be speculating here. That's why I've said it in question form (and not stating it).
Can't psionic energy be converted into some type of mass like that of Jean's force fields and Sue's constructs, etc.?
I see Onslaught as one big energy construct. Maybe I'm wrong though.