Infinity Watch vs. the Big 7

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The league I suggested would be much better in fighting the iw.

Full on Speed Force Wally could probably take the Watch (minus Gems) by himself

Full on Ion Kyle can definately take the Watch (minus Gems) by himself.

Seriously you are overselling the Watch and underselling the JLA, I mean this match is a lot more closer then it looks. For example, the Flash alone would give the Watch a handfull of problems as they are not used to dealing with speedsters on his level that actually abuse their speed (I'm looking at you Silver Surfer).

Originally posted by darthgoober
How do you figure that? Warlock's thrown a beatin to Mephisto single handedly, and he took on Thor without his gem(he lost that fight but still). Unless I mistaken he has advanced resistace to mental attacks, so I just don't see him going down to Manhunter.

Oh yes, but Mephisto is evil and much more subject to a karmic blast. THe MM has no such weakness. Also MM is stronger and faster than Warlock, With many more powers at his disposal.

Originally posted by B dot Rob
Adam Warlock
Gamora
Moondragon
Drax the Destroyer (Old School)
Pip the Troll
Thanos
Maxam

vs

Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Flash (Wally West)
Green Lantern (Kyle Rayner)
Martian Manhunter
Aquaman

who wins this match-up

I think it's too close to call

with thanos, the watch is too much.

Originally posted by doctorstrongbad
Infinity Watch takes this battle w/o gems. With The gems, they win 10/10.

I'm in agrement

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Oh yes, but Mephisto is evil and much more subject to a karmic blast. THe MM has no such weakness. Also MM is stronger and faster than Warlock, With many more powers at his disposal.

oh I choose to disagree ...Intelligence: Beyond Human. Adam Warlock sees things differently than others
Strength: Superhuman Class 50, able to increase that by a factor of four by augmenting himself with cosmic energy.
Speed: SuperHuman
Stamina: Nearly Inexhaustible
Durability: Nearly Indestructable
Agility: SuperHuman
Reflexes: SuperHuman
Fighting skills: Adam Warlock's fighting skills were not taught to him . He developed them on his own while fighting enemies. He has developed fighting skills to rival the best Martial Artists.
Special Skills and Abilities: Vast Knowledge of Strategy, and the Occult. Adam Warlock has the ability to fly. He is outside the realm of Chaos and Order so therefor he knows the Universe as no other mortal. He has demonstrated superhuman physical powers with his new abilities to see a person's aura and touch/go into their soul.
Superhuman Physical Powers: Besides the above listed attributes, Adam Warlock has the power to fire out some type of cosmic energy blasts, capable of destroying a mountain top.
Superhuman Mental Powers: Adam Warlock has demonstrated no psionic abilities. But he seems to have be immune to psionic attacks. He also has a firm grasp on reality.
Special Limitations: Getting too insane can turn him into the Magus
Source of Superhuman Powers: Adam Warlock's power were gained by the means of his birth. The scientists endowed him with powers so that he could be the perfect human. He also gains extra power from his Soul Gem.

Originally posted by complexbrother
oh I choose to disagree ...Intelligence: Beyond Human. Adam Warlock sees things differently than others
Strength: Superhuman Class 50, able to increase that by a factor of four by augmenting himself with cosmic energy.
Speed: SuperHuman
Stamina: Nearly Inexhaustible
Durability: Nearly Indestructable
Agility: SuperHuman
Reflexes: SuperHuman
Fighting skills: Adam Warlock's fighting skills were not taught to him . He developed them on his own while fighting enemies. He has developed fighting skills to rival the best Martial Artists.
Special Skills and Abilities: Vast Knowledge of Strategy, and the Occult. Adam Warlock has the ability to fly. He is outside the realm of Chaos and Order so therefor he knows the Universe as no other mortal. He has demonstrated superhuman physical powers with his new abilities to see a person's aura and touch/go into their soul.
Superhuman Physical Powers: Besides the above listed attributes, Adam Warlock has the power to fire out some type of cosmic energy blasts, capable of destroying a mountain top.
Superhuman Mental Powers: Adam Warlock has demonstrated no psionic abilities. But he seems to have be immune to psionic attacks. He also has a firm grasp on reality.
Special Limitations: Getting too insane can turn him into the Magus
Source of Superhuman Powers: Adam Warlock's power were gained by the means of his birth. The scientists endowed him with powers so that he could be the perfect human. He also gains extra power from his Soul Gem.

ALL of that is nice, it's still not enough to beat martian manhunter.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
ALL of that is nice, it's still not enough to beat martian manhunter.

Yes, but how is Manhunter going to bring down Warlock. Manhunter my have a speed advantage, but I'm betting that it's not enouugh to secure a victory for him. And I know that Manhunter a wide variety of powers at his disposal, but nowhere ne as many when you combine Warlock's power cosmic with all the abilities the gem grants. Warlock is as powerful as a low level Herald without the gem, so I don't think he has much chance of loosing with it.

I made a thread pitting AW vs MM and got 4 replies, but I think it's a very close fight. Even with AW amping his strength to the 200 ton range MM is still stronger and faster. The deciding factor would be how MM stands up to a Karmic blast. And as an intangible, Thanos of Titan respects no one as much as AW. There's a reason for that.

doesnt warlock have knowledge of stranges spells?

cause if he does, then well that would make it an even bigger win.

To my knowledge Adam Warlock is probably only slightly better then Doom with his magic.

I would go with the Watch. Thanos would of course be the deciding factor because he can take a number of the 7 on his own. Hell, without Maxam, the Watch almost defeated all of Earth's heroes at the same time in Infinity War.

Originally posted by olympian
What did current Darkseid "do"?

Does Current Darksied include Morissons version (Who actually killed all the other skyfathers, in the Rock of Ageis) or the jobber version, who has existed since OWAW ?

Are the Infinity Watch allowed to use their gems ?
Is Kyle Ryner in his most current Ion form ?
Are we talking about Morrisons Aquaman (the one with the hook), the most recent rendition (the one with magic hand) or Tempest (He can do anything with water) ?

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Does Current Darksied include Morissons version (Who actually killed all the other skyfathers, in the Rock of Ageis) or the jobber version, who has existed since OWAW ?

Are the Infinity Watch allowed to use their gems ?
Is Kyle Ryner in his most current Ion form ?
Are we talking about Morrisons Aquaman (the one with the hook), the most recent rendition (the one with magic hand) or Tempest (He can do anything with water) ?

The Infinity Watch and Thanos beats the Big 7 any day of the week. If they can use the gems then its 10/10.

I keep saying the only people in the watch with access to gems are Warlock and Pip :/. And of course this is Waterbearer hand Aquaman and Current Kyle.

Originally posted by B dot Rob
I keep saying the only people in the watch with access to gems are Warlock and Pip :/. And of course this is Waterbearer hand Aquaman and Current Kyle.

sniper

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Oh yes, but Mephisto is evil and much more subject to a karmic blast. THe MM has no such weakness. Also MM is stronger and faster than Warlock, With many more powers at his disposal.

eh? with or without the gem, warlock is a powerhouse....

this is a guy who takes on abstracts....

he aint called godslayer for nothing....

Warlock can kill anyone there instanly by taking away their soul.
And Thanos is ever more powerful.