Will turns bad?

Started by LovelyOne7 pages

yeh yours is opinion based on what you want in your mind..my opinion is based on factual evidence from the movie and the director's own mouth 🙂. I'f im wrong..by all means rub it in my face..I wont care to be honest 🙂 If you are wrong..I'm not going to be so childish...I'll just be happy with myself that I still can put my film studies skills to use..

Originally posted by CaptinJackLover
I never thought about that before! He probably did. but if he did why wouldnt he suspect she did somehting to Jack on the ship. Becasue Gibbs knows Jack and JAck would not stay to give them a chance. he would go!

I dont think Gibbs saw. Gibbs would be SHOCKED< IMO, lol. 🙂 I really dont think Gibbs was paying any attention. hehe.

I have a feeling that Gibbs knows about Jack's feeligs for Liz..I need to get onto youtube again to spot where gibbs comes from in that scene..

Good idea

Okay, okay, wow. Let's not do the "rub it in your face" deal. Really, there is just as much evidence for Will/Liz as there is for Jack/Liz and there is some evidence someting unexpected will happen. Allow me to play the devil's advocate.

Will/Liz
1. Once you save a person's life, you are connected to them forever. Liz saved Will by hiding the Aztec gold so he would not be suspected of piracy.
2. They grew up together and have a solid friendship, if a little too formal (Will's fault, bloody, stupid Will)
3. Will's first thought after the raid is finding Liz and saving her, and he compromises a bunch of his beliefs (teaming up with a pirate) just to help her.
4. While I didn't get the chills I got from the scenes she has with Jack, she has a very sweet, very heartfelt scene with Will in the first movie and you can see in both their eyes more than a glimmer of a spark.
5. They are the established couple by the end, choosing to be together. Will chooses her and she chooses him.
6. They were going to get married! That's not a decision made lightly. They both feel they are ready to spend their lives together.
7. Will once again decides to put himself in harm's way to save Liz. He doesn't help her escape because "get Jack's compass" sounds a lot easier than it turns out to be. Liz even says only the bars of her cell are stopping her from marrying him.
8. They look thrilled to see each other when they are reunited.
9. Will is sincerely hurt by Liz's kiss, and it can be argued at least part of her thought she was doing it for everyone else's benefit. He hasn't given up on their love and I'm sure was thinking about her a lot of the time.
10. Keeping them together would nicely bookend the movies and make sense.

Now, reasons why the above could all be crap and Jack and Liz will sail away together.

1. Once you save someone's life..... Jack met Liz by saving her from drowning and she argues for his life to be spared. They are also connected.
2. Starting when they are marooned on the island together, they begin a strong friendship, although a little too casual at times (Jack's fault)
3. They seem to have more in common than Will does with Liz and similarity is an important factor with love.
4. The compasses, hats, and all the fun little hidden things people spot.
5. The clinging of the leg, indicating this is the person Liz depends on more than anyone else.
6. Liz not only kisses Jack, but gets all set for another one, and Jack clearly is turned on.
7. Jack's animosity to Will.
8. Liz's agreeing to find Jack at the end.

Okay, now here is some evidence that neither of these things will happen.
1. There is a whole third movie. New characters, possible deaths, plot twists. We don't know the rest of the story.
2. Jack and Liz can admire and love each other without being in love, and there are other explanations for the compass/hat stuff.
3. Disney has tended to make their heroines more 3-dimensional people, not defined by just a man. Liz isn't the prize, she's a person and in the middle of all these adventures and crises, her first thought isn't, or shouldn't be, "ooh, all these men, who will I end up with?"
4. The movie series so far has broken some rules and doesn't exactly follow the rules of a trilogy. There are some rules that they do, follow, though, and those could override anything.
5. Jack, Liz, and Will aren't your typical trio. They are hardly ever all together and each has bonded on a strong level with the others and has saved their lives. They could all stay single or all end up with other people.
6. Does she have to choose? Disney is getting more and more daring. They could all just be friends with benefits.

The last one was a joke.

Originally posted by LovelyOne
no he's like...."oh whats this? ahhh ha! *smiles* I was right!..you came over to my side like I SAID YOU WOULD EARLIER"

someone who was HURT by what she just did would NOT SMILE would they..

the very fact he is smiling and she is finding it HARD to leave him there proves to us that this betrayal is DIFFERENT to what happened when she betrayed him in movie one..last time she had absolutely no remorse for what she did and Jack was about to shoot her brains out..

this time..Liz is trying hard not to kiss him again and Jack is smirking and is actually PROUD of her..when he says "pirate"..don't believe me? It says in the Disney book that he says "pirate" with pride 🙂 their feelings have Changed for one another even if you like it or not tee hee...they have developed past dislike to a simple acquaintance then to friendship and THEN into love and lust by the end of movie 2

I'm still rooting for Liz and Will

YOUR ROOTING FOR LIZ AND WILL!?!?! WHY?!?!?!?!

I'm different, plus,.. no one else is!
I LOVE to be different! 😄

ME TOO BUT THIS IS JUST SOMEHTING I CANT CHANGE MY MIND ON. JACK AND LIZ WERE MEANT TO BE TOGETHER.

*shrugs* Everyones gotta have a fan,.. lets just say I'm doing this for a friend!

two of my friends are all for LIZ and Will and i just dont get them. especially cuz they have nothing to back it up with. so i always end up winning the arguments. 😄

I try to back it up,.. but there are more against me than with me,.. Plus you guys can build off each other! I have to stand alone

i would help you. but i just cant change my mind about this one.

Its okay,.. I'll do my best to fight!horse

hahaha i luv the little "warrior" and horse thing! too funny!

😄

WEll then go watch Shrek with his donky

WHAT?!

JoB, just because you dropped the ryming, doesn't mean you need to confuse us!!

^^ ?YEA what she said!