TOAA decides to destroy all universes

Originally posted by guy222
and who could have let the true beyonders in?

TOAA

(i Think variant sources point in the direction of a being vastly more powerful then themselves and this is powerful

Well, we know that there are Eternity's, and Multi-Eternity's...

And that the brothers are the sum of to megaverses, so they're kinof Mega-Eternity's.

TOAA is the Omni-Eternity. He is everything in the omniverse, and is their sum, and also the sum of the writers. TOAA is pretty much Martvel itself, both the company and the MU.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Well, we know that there are Eternity's, and Multi-Eternity's...

And that the brothers are the sum of to megaverses, so they're kinof Mega-Eternity's.

TOAA is the Omni-Eternity. He is everything in the omniverse, and is their sum, and also the sum of the writers. TOAA is pretty much Martvel itself, both the company and the MU.

More kind of omni-upergod with unlimited power, if i remember correctly TOAA is the only one to posesse full omnipotence, omnipresence and omniscience.

Originally posted by guy222
another thing, beyonder had all that power and puma was the one who could have killed him respect puma

That's not exactly accurate.

The Beyonder wanted to return to his Natural State of Un-Being, (the Beyond Realm) in order to do this, he had to kill his mortal frame, only he couldn't do it himself or willingly, he needed an outside force to do it.

So he gave Puma a destiny, in which Puma would be able to kill him, at the right moment when the Universe's Cosmic Axis aligned perfectly, giving Puma ALL the powers of the Universe completely.

Peter Parker says, "Muramoto clued me into this SUICIDE PACT you've got going with Puma"

Here's the club scene:

As you can see, Beyonder set this whole thing up, and he's in control the whole way:

Beyonder says, "I can STOP this in a Flash I can be on the other side of the Universe, can I live with losing? ... Can I die for the sake of winning"

Beyonder WANTS Puma to slay him...

Here Puma becomes ONE with the Universe:

Spiderman interferes for a bit, gets smacked around by Puma, and realizes this is what Beyonder wants, so he leaves them alone figuring they're both nuts.

By the time Puma strikes the Beyonder, his moment of Universal harmony fades, and nothing happens.

Beyonder set that whole thing up.

Let's NOT respect Puma according to this.

Xplosive makes a good point. I really like the classic Beyonder too. He was one of my fav. series the two secret wars. However he had his limits and understanding was one of them. Experience was another.
We must presume that TOAA is above any totality like the Beyonder was described as being.

Originally posted by Wonder Man
Xplosive makes a good point. I really like the classic Beyonder too. He was one of my fav. series the two secret wars. However he had his limits and understanding was one of them. Experience was another.
We must presume that TOAA is above any totality like the Beyonder was described as being.

actually i misrepresented myself and the Beyonder. it wasn't that he wasn't all knowing and all powerful it was that he could have and do anything he wanted and he was really just experienceing his abilities for himself.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Mr. Master just showed that Beyonder wanted to be an abstract, so for that he used Puma, as an abstract Beyonder wouldent have any limits, such as understanding, the explenation for that is the old Beyond-realm.

Mr. Master never showe danything of the sort.

i assume that we from this can agree that TOAA is above the beyonder???

Originally posted by Utrigita
i assume that we from this can agree that TOAA is above the beyonder???

yes

Has anyone ever seen what The One Above All looks like?

Originally posted by Wonder Man
Has anyone ever seen what The One Above All looks like?

isn't the one above all andy schmidt 😆

i would say jack kirby

Originally posted by Wonder Man
Has anyone ever seen what The One Above All looks like?

Mr Fantastic and the Fantastic Four 🙂

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Marvel_Universe

Absorbing Lt is greater than what beyonder ever did. IT doesnt matter if LT was too scarred to fight him we dont really know that. The fact is that in the whole secret wars arc beyonder never once fought or touched the LT. He wa alive through the whole thing.

Originally posted by Mordum
Absorbing Lt is greater than what beyonder ever did. IT doesnt matter if LT was too scarred to fight him we dont really know that. The fact is that in the whole secret wars arc beyonder never once fought or touched the LT. He wa alive through the whole thing.

It does matter, and YEs we do know he was TOO SCARED.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Really?

What do you think the Living Tribunal's function is?

To safeguard the Multiversal Balance

Beyonder ERASED Death from the Multiverse:

What do you think this would lead to?

A Multiversal Imbalance! (ALL the reason in the Multiverse for LT to ACT)

Originally posted by Mordum
Absorbing Lt is greater than what beyonder ever did. IT doesnt matter if LT was too scarred to fight him we dont really know that. The fact is that in the whole secret wars arc beyonder never once fought or touched the LT. He wa alive through the whole thing.

so ur saying tribunal is a coward 😆

he (LT) could always take the cheap way out, and claim (if hypotetically speaking he was to be blamed for not coming forward and fighting the beyonder) that he knew the outcome of the whole story, a somewhat logical thing considering his omniscience.

In other words, the LT (possibly) knew that the Beyonder was going to recreate Death (among other things) and that's why he didn't step in.

Of course, it's just an opinion, and possibly it's not even true 🙂

Originally posted by guy222
so ur saying tribunal is a coward 😆