bone-claw wolverine v.s. deadpool

Originally posted by SSJ4Wolverine
i'll get back to this lata...

its too late to laugh this much...lol

(lol...a decapitation isn't a win)

😂 😂 😂

but yea...nyce debatin' though..i have some other ammo i'll hit you with later..

They're not out of the fight until they stay down. reforming and getting right back up from being turned into wonder jello, is a pretty strong indicator that destroying the brain isn't a KO for Deadpool.

Originally posted by SSJ4Wolverine
i try not to debate based on assumptions...

Originally posted by Creshosk
It's like saying that knocking someone backward is a win, or that when a brick punches Wolvie its a win.

They're not out of the fight until they stay down. reforming and getting right back up from being turned into wonder jello, is a pretty strong indicator that destroying the brain isn't a KO for Deadpool.

exactly,
basicly, Deadpool is wolverines superior, ESPECAILLY, when you get rid of his adamentium. Thats just not fair for wolverine

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
exactly,
basicly, Deadpool is wolverines superior, ESPECAILLY, when you get rid of his adamentium. Thats just not fair for wolverine

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
This isnt a test of healing factors, but it doesnt change the fact that Deadpools is superior, which is a factor in this fight. Becuase while wolverine is writheing in pain after getting his stomach sliced open, (something that deadpool could probably shrug off alot better due to his enhanced regen) he will be left open, and liable to be beaten into a KO.

Dont get me wrong, its not going to be a pushover, but between Deadpools better regen, a VERY good arsenal of tools, better agility, and arguably better strength (or atleast equal), wovlerine has alot less going for him than DP does. hes willing to do alot more to win fights, and has done them, against wolverine infact which wovlerine has seemed to fall for more than once

Wolverine has alot less to fall back on, whereas DP has shown time and time agian he is willing to go to strange measures to win battles , but it works

Exactly.

Originally posted by galan7777777
deadpool with his arsenal should be able to infilct enough damage to wolve to win the fight, and remember winning dosent necessarily mean killing

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Deadpool can allready beat a normal wolverine.

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Putting wolverine in his bone claw state just increases that likelyhood of deadpool winning.

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Deadpool definately takes the majority via Sword through the skull/several gunblasts to the head/excessive beating. And im pertty sure DP has a better regen than wolverine. perpahs debateable, though.

Originally posted by Soljer
Yeah, because a feral wolverine stabbing someone who is A) hallucinating and B) trying to HUG Wolverine is a huge feat...

Originally posted by Horrificus
Hogwash!
For every time you listed Wolverina healing from the impossible, I can list a storyline showing his corpse, talking about his death, or a character bragging about killing him.

Originally posted by Horrificus
How the hell does a mutation allow hime to heal, if there is no more body to heal?

Originally posted by K3VIL
Matter of fact, bone claws aren't unbreakable, and Wade's swords can keep up with them, and means that Logan can also be beheaded. A full strength beheader sword manouver can kill Wolverine, while Wade is banished from death so he cannot be killed permanently.

Originally posted by King KAM
what if Deadpool puts his sword in Wolverines skull, and the other in his heart, and leaves em there....

Originally posted by Priest
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8144/wolverine088page02030lm.jpg
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4646/wolverine088page04059ks.jpg
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Originally posted by galan7777777
haha thats great!u cant debate actual pannels

Originally posted by galan7777777
but its shown on panel so it cant really be debated.......but it is wierd though

Originally posted by willRules
Whilst Logan outclasses him in skill, Deadpool is more durable/wwwaaaaayyyyy better healing, stronger and more agile.

Originally posted by willRules
Actually the writers said there was an explanation behind that feat and how he was able to survive

Originally posted by Inhuman
I think that was a f-ing ridiculous feat by wolves.

Originally posted by SSJ4Wolverine
Deadpool is def. stronger....but not more agile....

Originally posted by SSJ4Wolverine
and about the scans..its true...you can't debate them...however...an old scan has little bearing on current characters...especially after upgrades...

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Deadpool's healing factor is far better than Wolverine's on his best day. DP can have holes through his body or claws through his heart/lungs, and he still keeps talking, able to regenerate things like that almost instantly.

Originally posted by willRules
Correct, Deadpool is stronger. But he is also more agile as shown in these two feats which credit both his [B]Superhuman strength and agility here.........[/B]

Originally posted by galan7777777
has bone claw wolvie ever gone toe 2 toe with hulk?

Originally posted by galan7777777
why not, bone claws HF is much greater then adamantium wolvies is

Originally posted by batdude123
Bone claw Wolverine isn't stronger. ❌ The adamantium gives his muscles reinforcement, making him able to have far superior lifting strength.

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
and lol, archangels wings are adamentium, he even commented on it when he cut them in half

How does Wolverine win?

Are guns going to win this fight for Wade? No.

Wolverine has dodged gunfire from Wade before, as well as things moving at light speed. And whatever few bullets that do hit Wolverine aren't going to do anything. They'll heal instantly. After DP runs out of ammo and/or Wolverine destroys his guns it becomes a sword versus claw fight.

Is a sword going to win this fight for Wade? No.

Swords do nothing to Wolverine. They are almost as useless as guns are. Wolverine looks at people funny when they impale him. Swords can also be cut. Wolverine's bone claws >> most metal. Sabretooth comments by Wolverine # 126 that Wolverine's bone claws cut almost as well as the adamantium ones did. Wolverine will cut through Wade's sword. And considering his whole skeleton is made of superdense bone just like his claws, Wade might not be able to cut off Wolverine's head. Wolverine's bones might still be too dense. Pool gets disarmed of the swords. Wolverine still has claws and Pool is now weaponless.

Are DP's fighting skills going to beat Wolverine? No.

Wolverine is a better fighter. Dont argue it, it's obvious. He's got more training, more experience, and he's pawned the good fighters of Marvel. Pool got beat by Squirrel Girl for Christ's sake. DP is not stronger or faster or more agile than Wolverine. There is no proof that he is. DP's physical stats are based on the healing factor, which was derived from Wolverine, so they should be about equal, even though Wolverine has the better strength and speed feats by a MILE. In a H2H fight (which is what it will eventually come down to) These 2 have physical attributes that are roughly the same. Therefor no one should be speedblitzing the other, or overpowering them. By the same token it's going to be nearly impossible for them to knock each other out. Bone Claws Wolvy has taken shots from the Hulk and been alright, therefor the same goes for DP. Wolverine's HF is also not going to be overloaded by DP's sword or gun attacks. He can take a firepower barrage from a small army and blade attacks from a legion of the hand. Just DP is not going to overload Wolverine's HF. By the same token Wolverine is not going to overload DP's HF, especially since we dont know if it can be done. Even with weapons DP can't really hurt Wolverine. W/O them he wont do much of anything. Now it becomes a slice fest for Wolverine. DP can and will take it, but sooner or later Pool will lose an arm or a leg or a head. As that slows him down Wolverine takes off his head. Most would call this a win, but none of you here do. But as DP is growing a head back Wolverine can just continue to rip apart his body. Wolverine's stamina will not let him tire out while doing menial physical labor like chopping up DP's body, so he can do it for a long friggin time. We dont know if DP can max out his HF. He has never been subject to the repeated damage sessions that Wolverine has. As long as DP can keep healing Wolverine can keep chopping him up.

And then there are the slightly more normal KO options. Wolverine could simply apply a rear naked choke and make DP pass out. DP will of course recover very quickly, yet a KO is a win last time I checked.

Originally posted by riceroost
How does Wolverine win?

Are guns going to win this fight for Wade? No.

Wolverine has dodged gunfire from Wade before, as well as things moving at light speed. And whatever few bullets that do hit Wolverine aren't going to do anything. They'll heal instantly. After DP runs out of ammo and/or Wolverine destroys his guns it becomes a sword versus claw fight.

Is a sword going to win this fight for Wade? No.

Swords do nothing to Wolverine. They are almost as useless as guns are. Wolverine looks at people funny when they impale him. Swords can also be cut. Wolverine's bone claws >> most metal. Sabretooth comments by Wolverine # 126 that Wolverine's bone claws cut almost as well as the adamantium ones did. Wolverine will cut through Wade's sword. And considering his whole skeleton is made of superdense bone just like his claws, Wade might not be able to cut off Wolverine's head. Wolverine's bones might still be too dense. Pool gets disarmed of the swords. Wolverine still has claws and Pool is now weaponless.

Are DP's fighting skills going to beat Wolverine? No.

Wolverine is a better fighter. Dont argue it, it's obvious. He's got more training, more experience, and he's pawned the good fighters of Marvel. Pool got beat by Squirrel Girl for Christ's sake. DP is not stronger or faster or more agile than Wolverine. There is no proof that he is. DP's physical stats are based on the healing factor, which was derived from Wolverine, so they should be about equal, even though Wolverine has the better strength and speed feats by a MILE. In a H2H fight (which is what it will eventually come down to) These 2 have physical attributes that are roughly the same. Therefor no one should be speedblitzing the other, or overpowering them. By the same token it's going to be nearly impossible for them to knock each other out. Bone Claws Wolvy has taken shots from the Hulk and been alright, therefor the same goes for DP. Wolverine's HF is also not going to be overloaded by DP's sword or gun attacks. He can take a firepower barrage from a small army and blade attacks from a legion of the hand. Just DP is not going to overload Wolverine's HF. By the same token Wolverine is not going to overload DP's HF, especially since we dont know if it can be done. Even with weapons DP can't really hurt Wolverine. W/O them he wont do much of anything. Now it becomes a slice fest for Wolverine. DP can and will take it, but sooner or later Pool will lose an arm or a leg or a head. As that slows him down Wolverine takes off his head. Most would call this a win, but none of you here do. But as DP is growing a head back Wolverine can just continue to rip apart his body. Wolverine's stamina will not let him tire out while doing menial physical labor like chopping up DP's body, so he can do it for a long friggin time. We dont know if DP can max out his HF. He has never been subject to the repeated damage sessions that Wolverine has. As long as DP can keep healing Wolverine can keep chopping him up.

And then there are the slightly more normal KO options. Wolverine could simply apply a rear naked choke and make DP pass out. DP will of course recover very quickly, yet a KO is a win last time I checked.

While you do make some interesting points in this post, [i have come to understand taht its not unreasonable to assume that perhaps Wolverine minus adamentium would have a similar regen to deadpools, his only disadvantage being a lack of immortality] I still thikn thier are a few unreasonable claims in this post

Now obviously wolverine is capable of dodgeing gunfire from John Smith the local LAPD officer and perhaps even some talented 'combatnants', sure. So is Captain america, so is Iron fist, etc. People dodge bullets, now i dont know where you were going with the whole light speed thing but if you want to put it like that, thiers PLENTY of characters in MU that dodge things moving at light speed. Although i can kind of see what you were trying to illustrate.

Regardless, the bottom line is, eventually, Wolverine is going to get shot. Period. Between Deadpools combat finess and excillent marksmanry, hes going to catch some led, plasma, concussion, whatever. And its giong to slow him down if not momentairily. Lets be serious, hes not fighing some random with decent fighting skill and guns. DP's Fighing skill is arguably on par with wolverine, perhaps exceeding it in some ways. Sure wolverine has more expirence, if that is the case, why has he found himself on the end of deadpools Kitana on multiple occassians? where are his years of fighting expirence now? And to discredit it just because he didnt have regen is asanine. The fact remains that he got clocked by Deadpool. His regen wasnt Impareing his ability to dodge & think. Merely made the fight shorter. And on that merit, perhaps the outcome could have been different if the fight had gone on longer. But he didnt, and it didnt, and the bottom line is, he got poked.

I will not argue if Wolverine the more expirenced fighter or not becuase i know he is. but that does not neccessairily make him "better".

As for deadpool getting "beat" by squirrel girl, perhaps you shuold have also mentioned that Deadpool was sitting down motionless because he just detonated a grenade inside his stomach, coped with the fact that he was cracking jokes at squirrle girl the entire time. Nevertheless, this is hardly an accurate showing of deadpools fighitng prowress, because this infact, was not a fight at all. Merely Plot advancement.

Since this fight is somewhat ambiguous you then look at who has more to draw from, and what do we have:

Wolverine: His own skill, Claws

Deadpool: His own skill, Swords, Various assortment of weapons, Grenades, and perhaps something you may be forgetting -- a teleporter.

IF things really got ugly, what would stop him from teleporting, perhaps re-arming and going at it again?

I dont doubt that wolverine could "ko" deadpool, is it likely? No.

P.s As for The archangel/adamentium thing, its not too important, although im still pertty sure when deadpool sliced his wing he said something to effect of "Wow this cuts throguh adamentium too?"
BUT regardless, its irrelevant because it was in another verision of earth, and i was just using it to illustrate that Deadpools arsenal is usually random/futureistic weaponry. Ide have to look up the scan but its not too important

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
and Lets not pretend wolverine hasnt been put out of a fight with a bladed wepaon before

wolverine has been overloaded before, and no, wolverine did not get up after this wound for a good while

Ah the good non-PIS writing. ✅

Originally posted by SSJ4Wolverine
I asked you to tell me WHEN wolverine's HF has run out....without some EXTREME trauma...like from Magneto...

his HF will not run out....I'm not sure if you've really read a wolverine comic before with that comment....

the guy got reduced to a skeleton and came back...you're out of your mind if you think deadpool can create that sort of trauma in wolverine..lol...

"it happens" lol...prove it

Wolverine's healing factor overloaded, after he nearly was killed by a Setinal by being burned and having his arm burned off, by Casandra Nova.

He had to meditate in the forest for a couple of days to get himself back in shape

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Now obviously wolverine is capable of dodgeing gunfire from John Smith the local LAPD officer and perhaps even some talented 'combatnants', sure. So is Captain america, so is Iron fist, etc. People dodge bullets, now i dont know where you were going with the whole light speed thing but if you want to put it like that, thiers PLENTY of characters in MU that dodge things moving at light speed. Although i can kind of see what you were trying to illustrate.

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Regardless, the bottom line is, eventually, Wolverine is going to get shot. Period. Between Deadpools combat finess and excillent marksmanry, hes going to catch some led, plasma, concussion, whatever..

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
And its giong to slow him down if not momentairily. Lets be serious, hes not fighing some random with decent fighting skill and guns..

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
DP's Fighing skill is arguably on par with wolverine, perhaps exceeding it in some ways.

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Sure wolverine has more expirence, if that is the case, why has he found himself on the end of deadpools Kitana on multiple occassians? where are his years of fighting expirence now? And to discredit it just because he didnt have regen is asanine. The fact remains that he got clocked by Deadpool. His regen wasnt Impareing his ability to dodge & think. Merely made the fight shorter. And on that merit, perhaps the outcome could have been different if the fight had gone on longer. But he didnt, and it didnt, and the bottom line is, [b] he got poked. .[/B]

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
I will not argue if Wolverine the more expirenced fighter or not becuase i know he is. but that does not neccessairily make him "better".

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Deadpool: His own skill, Swords, Various assortment of weapons, Grenades, and perhaps something you may be forgetting -- a teleporter..

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
IF things [b]really got ugly, what would stop him from teleporting, perhaps re-arming and going at it again?.[/B]

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
I dont doubt that wolverine could "ko" deadpool, is it likely? No.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Ah the good non-PIS writing. ✅

Originally posted by Grimm22
Wolverine's healing factor overloaded, after he nearly was killed by a Setinal by being burned and having his arm burned off, by Casandra Nova.

Point is Wolverine's healing factor was working at super speed all the way up until the point Cassandra was beaten. Also, dont try to compare Cassandra Nova's damage ability to Deadpool's. That makes you look really bad. Wade CAN'T hurt Wolverine like Cassandra Nova did.

Originally posted by riceroost
Wolverine has dodged NITRO's gunfire. And Nitro is not just Joe Blow with a badge. He's a super soldier with super reflexes, strength, speed, and cybernetic enhancements. This is a guy that can actually track Wolverine and Logan still made Nitro waste his entire ammo store without getting shot a single time. That's a little better than just dodging 2 or 3 bullets from Barney Fife.
Even though he can dodge Nuke's entire arsenal without getting touched and has evaded gufire from 30 automatic weapons at once? He may get shot, but it wont be all that much. If he can dodge the optic blast that easily bullets and conventional firearms dont stand much of a chance of hitting him if he's trying to avoid it. DP has already failed to get a shot off against a Wolverine who was surprised in Wolverine # 88. I dont see the guns being much of a factor either way. This will become a blade fight very quickly.
Again, above. Cyclops and Nitro are not pushovers. And no, history says guns are about 99% worthless against Wolverine. They will not slow him down. 40 rounds in the gut (with a weak healing factor) just makes him mad.
BS. No one has ever said in any comic "DP's fighting skill is better than Wolverine's" or even "DP is as good as Wolverine." That is your belief. I dont know why you would carry that belief. Wolverine has been praised by the likes of Cap and Shang-Chi on his fighting skill. DP's hand to hand seems more on par with Cable, and even then Nate was doing better than Wade. THe only thing DP has that is of note is the randomness of his fighting style. Problem is being random is no substitute for being better. Being random only works for so long, until it gets you in trouble against a more solid fighter. And as for random, Wolverine can do that anyway. After all he has said that in a berserker rage, even he doesn't know what's coming next.
I can't believe what I'm hearing. So what if Wolverine got poked? Wolverine ripped open DP TWICE before he got poked. If these two were fighting without Regeneration DP would have been dead after Wolverine's first strike. If they both had working HFers the poke by DP would have done NOTHING to slow Wolverine down. The fight would have continued for the next two issues. DUH!! Where was Pool's superior skill when Wolverine dodged his sneak attack, disarmed him, and ripped him open before Pool could do anything about it? Uh, nowhere because Wolverine is the better fighter. Your entire argument here is irrelevant because 2 guys with HF are going to take ungodly damage in a fight. If one of them loses their power the fight is no longer fair or valid, so stop using it as a crutch. Wolverine ripped Wade first.
Shoot I will. Experience is the great decider in a lot of fights. Is Cap a great fighter because of his impressive array of high kicks and his Crane Style? No he uses a very basic style (according to Iron Fist) and it's his experience that makes him that good. Wolverine has higher than that level of experience and he will use crazy $hit like the crane style and jump spinning heel kicks. Ask anyone who fights for a living. Experience does matter.
Yeah Silver Samurai wears a teleporting ring too, but how often does he use that when he fights Wolverine? Not much. And Wolverine trounces Silver Samurai. Nightcrawler can teleport too and Wolverine embarasses him a lot. Teleport is like the guns. It wont matter in the long run. It's all about blades and healing factors here.
I would classify that as fleeing the field of battle and thus would award the victory to Wolverine. Besides Wolverine would benefit from DP running away as much as DP would. DP may heal up and rearm, but when he coms back he'd have to find Wolverine. Not an easy task. Especially when all of SHIELD cant do it.
Is it likely that DP could KO Wolverine? NO. Wolverine's KO resistance is well documented. His showings against knockout outdo anything DP has.
If that's not PIS than Wolverine would be doing the same to Deadpool. When Wolverine proves that can't happen 9 times out of 10 this is a PIS weak showing of the healing factor. Door swings both ways.
Yeah, burned alive by a Sentinel (Which DP can't do), Beaten to death by 50 erector set Sentinels (that aren't in Wade's arsenal), and then having his arm burned completely to the bone (which Wade again wont be able to do.)

Point is Wolverine's healing factor was working at super speed all the way up until the point Cassandra was beaten. Also, dont try to compare Cassandra Nova's damage ability to Deadpool's. That makes you look really bad. Wade CAN'T hurt Wolverine like Cassandra Nova did.

Ok lol, now their are some glareing mistakes in your post and I feel obligated to correct them.

First and foremost, Deadpool is in no way, shape or form in the fight leauge as Cable. If that were the case, why would Deadpool bother training Cable how to fight on a regular basis? (Illustrated in Cable & Deadpool 20, or something), that is just flat out, incorrect.

Deadpools teleportation isint used in the way nightcrawler or Silver Samurai uses it, its a means of escape/transportation, and the rules dont outlaw that, so it would not constitute a KO. Maybe in your book, but thats not what was mentioned in this thread.

And by merit of Immortality alone, Deadpool does factually surpass Wolverines regen, even moreso the w/adamentium version of wolverine (although i ackonweldge, that yes this is not the version here) Somewhat irrelevant, anyways.

And your right, expirence can be the decider in alot of fights, but are we talking Tim whos won 4902 fights vs John whos never fought before? Or Tim whos won 4092 fights and John whos won 3921 fights. Because After a point its not going to be as much of a factor. But the entire exprience debate should not be the basis of their fight becuase you can only speculate so much*

And of course no one in comics has ever said "DP surpasses wolverine in fighting ability." lol, does that ever happen in comics? i mean ive never read a comic that blantantly ranks characters amongst each other, if that were the case we would not be debateing on threads like these. This has never been the determining factor for who can fight better, which is why i said 'argueably'.

And again i say, i am not argueing the fact that wolverine was downed in 1 hit, i FULLY acknoweldge that he did not have regen. That isint the point. The point is wolverine got clocked, TWICE in almost the same fashion, so either something isint clicking in wolverines brain (perhaps getting to angry?) or he has no memory. Not only is deadpool an incredible fighter, his uniqueness in fighitng style and willingness to do anything to win a fight gives him an advantage over wolverine that perhaps no ammount of expiernce would ready him for.

The point is, seeing that the differentials in thier abilities is very ambiguous at times, the person with more tools to pull from and a wider variaty perhaps, of "instruments" to achieve victory with will inevitabley be the victor in this fight. Its not like deadpool carrys 1 extra magazine, 1 grenade and a flashbang. Wolverine has alot going against him in this fight. Either this fight will go on for ages, or wolverines head will fly off. Perhaps deadpools may once or twice. But what makes you think deadpool is incapable of sliceing Wolverines body apart? Dense bones? .......

Becuase THAT, is rediculous.

P.s
If my post sounds hostile (i dont think it does?) i promise, i am not being hostile in any way lol.

And to re-itterate that wolverine WILL be getting shot durring thier bouts

Traded blows and then ended with wolverine getting put to sleep.

(tranqu'ed)

Does anyone know the issue where deadpool sticks his hand in sabertooths mouth.

Originally posted by riceroost
Yeah, burned alive by a Sentinel (Which DP can't do), Beaten to death by 50 erector set Sentinels (that aren't in Wade's arsenal), and then having his arm burned completely to the bone (which Wade again wont be able to do.)

Point is Wolverine's healing factor was working at super speed all the way up until the point Cassandra was beaten. Also, dont try to compare Cassandra Nova's damage ability to Deadpool's. That makes you look really bad. Wade CAN'T hurt Wolverine like Cassandra Nova did.

DS's healing factor > x1000000 Wolverine's healing factor 😐

Wade has healed from being Goo, that and he's immortal

Originally posted by Grimm22
DS's healing factor > x1000000 Wolverine's healing factor 😐

Wade has healed from being Goo, that and he's immortal

And to add, DP's internal organs are pure liquid, so he is a mass of tightness that has an almost numb tolerance to pain

deadpool easily

Ther is no way wolverine can beat deadpool, beside the fact deadpool has regenerated from a puddle of goo, he is completely imortal and can not die under any circumstances.

Originally posted by Grimm22
DS's healing factor > x1000000 Wolverine's healing factor 😐

Wade has healed from being Goo, that and he's immortal

Originally posted by riceroost
Wolverine has healed from NOTHING. More than once. That beats healing from goo. Sorry.