Poll: Downloading music from the net. Bad or good?

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Originally posted by Sora The Brave
My point exactly. Only people I know who have Ares, are three of my friends.

Also, it took me thiry minutes to find the version of Ares I ddidn't have to pay for 😛

Is it file sharing software? If it is I can imagine it has few files on 😛

It is.

Jesus... No Idea do you have... 😛 If I got caught, I'd get like... Sued... Or something XD

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I didn't say "Rogue Jedi is specifically a scumbag.". If my opinion on the matter applies to you, then tough shit. It applies to probably billions of others.

No, I respect your RIGHT to have an opinion, I do not have to respect the actual opinion itself. Don't put the cart before the horse.

The fact of the matter is, Rogue, I've studied this and I know I have more factual and sensical information to go by than you do. You're wrong, and you know your debate makes no sense. That's why you endlessly dodge my posts like a greased egg.

-AC


i dodge your posts? dude, you like totally follow me whereever i go here and bash my opinion. are you in love with me or something?
if you have studied this, then quote us some facts on it.

🤨

You can get caught on file sharing programmes you know?

(to sora)

Originally posted by bigbran
My brother gave me the site in which i could find mine. (It's free and virus free.)
I call it a double freebie.
God I hate being last on a page.

I've had no problems with Limewire Pro.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
i dodge your posts? dude, you like totally follow me whereever i go here and bash my opinion. are you in love with me or something?
if you have studied this, then quote us some facts on it.

I'm not bashing your opinion, I'm debating it, countering it and giving reasons. You're not answering my question because you'll know you'll be proven wrong.

Answer my question please. I'm asking you nice enough, no need to be hypocritical and crack a gay joke, that's just sad.

-AC

Lucky... (To Big.)

No. It's just that I have so many illegal files and songs downloaded, if someone at school (Administrative staff or such.) Or a cop searched through, I'd be in serious trouble and get fined. Trust me, all of this stuff is ripped, torn and reproduced through like, twenty different people.
I dont think its legal to download SW: Ep. III for free... Or is it?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
That's why you endlessly dodge my posts like a greased egg.

Or two testes competing for a cavity being in size only two-thirds of their combined area.

Originally posted by Sora The Brave
Lucky... (To Big.)

No. It's just that I have so many illegal files and songs downloaded, if someone at school (Administrative staff or such.) Or a cop searched through, I'd be in serious trouble and get fined. Trust me, all of this stuff is ripped, torn and reproduced through like, twenty different people.
I dont think its legal to download SW: Ep. III for free... Or is it?

😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Or two testes competing for a cavity being in size only two-thirds of their combined area.

😆
i needed that!!!

I don't have a problem with illegal downloading if the person does buy the music whether it be I Tunes, Napster, or in CD form.

Guys in the Hip Hop thread are the perfect example: there was a ton of downloading that went on, most of it illegally, yet most of those same members to my knowledge still went out to buy the music artists CD's. If this was done more, illegal downloading wouldn't be such a problem as the artist would get paid in the end.

Here you go Rogue:

Advance: $250,000.
Manager's Cut: $37,500.
Legal fees: $10,000.
Recording Budget: $150,000.
Producer's advance: $50,000.
Studio fee: $ 52,500
Drum Amp, Mic and Phase "Doctors": $ 3,000
Recording tape: $ 8,000
Equipment rental: $ 5,000
Cartage and Transportation: $ 5,000
Lodgings while in studio: $ 10,000
Catering: $ 3,000
Mastering: $ 10,000
Tape copies, reference CDs, shipping tapes, misc. expenses: $ 2,000
Video budget: $ 30,000
Cameras: $ 8,000
Crew: $ 5,000
Processing and transfers: $ 3,000
Off-line: $ 2,000
On-line editing: $ 3,000
Catering: $ 1,000
Stage and construction: $ 3,000
Copies, couriers, transportation: $ 2,000
Director's fee: $ 3,000
Album Artwork: $ 5,000
Promotional photo shoot and duplication: $ 2,000
Band fund: $ 15,000
New fancy professional drum kit: $ 5,000
New fancy professional guitars [2]: $ 3,000
New fancy professional guitar amp rigs [2]: $ 4,000
New fancy potato-shaped bass guitar: $ 1,000
New fancy rack of lights bass amp: $ 1,000
Rehearsal space rental: $ 500
Big blowout party for their friends: $ 500
Tour expense [5 weeks]: $ 50,875
Bus: $ 25,000
Crew [3]: $ 7,500
Food and per diems: $ 7,875
Fuel: $ 3,000
Consumable supplies: $ 3,500
Wardrobe: $ 1,000
Promotion: $ 3,000
Tour gross income: $ 50,000
Agent's cut: $ 7,500
Manager's cut: $ 7,500
Merchandising advance: $ 20,000
Manager's cut: $ 3,000
Lawyer's fee: $ 1,000
Publishing advance: $ 20,000
Manager's cut: $ 3,000
Lawyer's fee: $ 1,000
Record sales: 250,000 @ $12 =
$3,000,000
Gross retail revenue Royalty: [13% of 90% of retail]:
$ 351,000
Less advance: $ 250,000
Producer's points: [3% less $50,000 advance]:
$ 40,000
Promotional budget: $ 25,000
Recoupable buyout from previous label: $ 50,000

Net royalty: $ -14,000

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Record company income:

Record wholesale price: $6.50 x 250,000 =
$1,625,000 gross income
Artist Royalties: $ 351,000
Deficit from royalties: $ 14,000
Manufacturing, packaging and distribution: @ $2.20 per record: $ 550,000
Gross profit: $ 7l0,000

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The Balance Sheet: This is how much each player got paid at the end of the game.

Record company: $ 710,000
Producer: $ 90,000
Manager: $ 51,000
Studio: $ 52,500
Previous label: $ 50,000
Agent: $ 7,500
Lawyer: $ 12,000
Band member net income each: $ 4,031.25

Not a huge deal, unless you're them.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm not bashing your opinion, I'm debating it, countering it and giving reasons. You're not answering my question because you'll know you'll be proven wrong.

Answer my question please. I'm asking you nice enough, no need to be hypocritical and crack a gay joke, that's just sad.

-AC


ok, point made. but it was no more sad than questioning my manhood.

are you still on the shoplifting thing? look, i just dont think that shoplifting is in the same league as burning cd's. your question has been answered, ok?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
ok, point made. but it was no more sad than questioning my manhood.

are you still on the shoplifting thing? look, i just dont think that shoplifting is in the same league as burning cd's. your question has been answered, ok?

No, it hasn't. I didn't ask that.

I asked you if you believed shoplifting was ok if the person doing it was on low income. Since you believe it's ok to steal if you're on low income.

Simple question, the faster you answer, the quicker we can move on.

-AC

Can I point out that this thread is in the wrong forum. (😛)

GDF?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
No, it hasn't. I didn't ask that.

I asked you if you believed shoplifting was ok if the person doing it was on low income. Since you believe it's ok to steal if you're on low income.

Simple question, the faster you answer, the quicker we can move on.

-AC


i answered your question. and you did ask me to be a man. i am more man than you could possibly imagine.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
i answered your question. and you did ask me to be a man. i am more man than you could possibly imagine.

Did you flex your muscles for self-satisfaction when you said that? I'd imagine this has left you feeling a little sheepish.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Here you go Rogue:

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The Balance Sheet: This is how much each player got paid at the end of the game.

Record company: $ 710,000
Producer: $ 90,000
Manager: $ 51,000
Studio: $ 52,500
Previous label: $ 50,000
Agent: $ 7,500
Lawyer: $ 12,000
[b]Band member net income each: $ 4,031.25

Not a huge deal, unless you're them.

-AC [/B]


Where'd you get this?
Its cool.

Originally posted by Tptmanno1
Where'd you get this?
Its cool.

It's an article written by Steve Albini; legendary record producer and music industry cornerstone.

-AC