Originally posted by bigbran
Thor can easily beat kyle and supes.
All he has to do is fight by a gas station to beat supes.
And for kyle, he just has to fire yellow at him.
Originally posted by Tassadar
"Sigh" Yes I do know what I am talking about. It doesnt say she gets her weapons, and normally all she carries with her are the bracelets and tiara, which are all but useless against Thor, because while using the bracelets shield she cant attack. Yes MM is Thors superior in many ways, but he is also Supermans superior in many ways, but he jobs, theirs no getting around that. Kyle being the best GL is arguable, and thats exactly what I said, but the rings have limits that are below those of Thor. WW and MM are not as fast as Supes, MM is slightly below, and WW is far from that fast, and they use their speed far less often than Supes does. WW doesnt get Godwave, if she did, she would beat Thor. Supes cant take it to the sun because Thor wont let him, and I said Supes takes a majority against Thor.
1) Batman
2) Martian Manhunter
3) Wonder Woman
4) GL (Kyle)
5) Superman
6) Flash
1. Thor 10/10
2. MM 8 or 9/10 I've never heard of Mjolnir being about to counter phasing but Thor's biggest problem is dealing with MM's telepathy
3. Thor 5/5 Both have weapons that could end the fight fairly quickly, with Thor perhaps having a slight advantage in versatility with Mjolnir. However I'd think this would be countered with WW's greater combat speed so for all intents and purposes I see this as being roughly even.
4. Thor 6/10 Similar to the Wonder Woman fight as it's really difficult to compare a GL ring and Mjolnir to each other in terms of which is strictly more powerful than the other. That being the case I'd side with Thor's greater combat experience to give him the majority.
5. This one is just too problematic to give a number to. The fight depends on a number of factors that are just too inconsistent. For example the extent Superman speed or weakness to magic is emphasized could easily swing this fight one way or the other.
6. Flash 8 or 9/10 Imo, the Flash just has too much of an advantage in terms of speed for Thor to be able to mount a convincing defense. There is the kinetic energy drain, infinite mass punches, and Flash's ability to vibrate through solid matter all of which can be done before Thor can reasonably react.
Originally posted by Tassadar
"Sigh" Yes I do know what I am talking about. It doesnt say she gets her weapons, and normally all she carries with her are the bracelets and tiara, which are all but useless against Thor, because while using the bracelets shield she cant attack. Yes MM is Thors superior in many ways, but he is also Supermans superior in many ways, but he jobs, theirs no getting around that. Kyle being the best GL is arguable, and thats exactly what I said, but the rings have limits that are below those of Thor. WW and MM are not as fast as Supes, MM is slightly below, and WW is far from that fast, and they use their speed far less often than Supes does. WW doesnt get Godwave, if she did, she would beat Thor. Supes cant take it to the sun because Thor wont let him, and I said Supes takes a majority against Thor.
Are you serious, then you don't know much about the jla. WW has more than her braclets and her tiara as her standard weapons now. She carries the sandle's and the sword with her. And she is very very fast. she has kept up with jesse quick, and she also observed the white martians moving so fast that even they didn't see her. The omac files put her speed at a1, the same as superman. ANd the reason I said she gets' the god wave is becuz it was mentioned that thor would God force superman. So to make things fair, I gave her a weapon that is readily at her disposal at all times. As far as the ring having limits, the only limit is the wearers imagination and will power. The rings themselves are limitless.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Are you serious, then you don't know much about the jla. WW has more than her braclets and her tiara as her standard weapons now. She carries the sandle's and the sword with her. And she is very very fast. she has kept up with jesse quick, and she also observed the white martians moving so fast that even they didn't see her. The omac files put her speed at a1, the same as superman. ANd the reason I said she gets' the god wave is becuz it was mentioned that thor would God force superman. So to make things fair, I gave her a weapon that is readily at her disposal at all times. As far as the ring having limits, the only limit is the wearers imagination and will power. The rings themselves are limitless.
no disrespect, but I cant help but feel you have a slight bias in favor of the JLA.
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
no disrespect, but I cant help but feel you have a slight bias in favor of the JLA.
The JLA rules. SO does thor. I just see him Not being able to get more than 5/5 most of the time. With the Gl's he'd be lucky to pull 3/10. They are as far out of his league as SS is. Imagine a Gl with the will power to make 1000 Thor's. They can do it and sustain it. He is outdone there. THe flash is cosmically powered and takes 10/10.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The JLA rules. SO does thor. I just see him Not being able to get more than 5/5 most of the time. With the Gl's he'd be lucky to pull 3/10. They are as far out of his league as SS is. Imagine a Gl with the will power to make 1000 Thor's. They can do it and sustain it. He is outdone there. THe flash is cosmically powered and takes 10/10.
I agree with you on behalf of flash, due to his godliness, on the other hand, with the excption of superman (debateable) i think thor is ATLEAST capable of 6/10
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
I agree with you on behalf of flash, due to his godliness, on the other hand, with the excption of superman (debateable) i think thor is ATLEAST capable of 6/10
See each battle with each opponent is so different. When he's fighting MM, he's fighting someone with Superman's powers, plus speed, shape changing, telepathy, molecular control, and invisability.
When he's Fighting Ww, he's fighting someone who's used to fighting God's, and has fought the ultimate weather controller, Zeus. She is also used to battling great warriors. she has defense against his every attack.
When he's fighting supers, he fighting someone just on another lvl when it comes to feats and invulnerability. Granted his magic will prove a help to him.
The Flash is cosmically powered and whoops thor handily. The flash can beat his own jla team if he truly wished to.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
See each battle with each opponent is so different. When he's fighting MM, he's fighting someone with Superman's powers, plus speed, shape changing, telepathy, molecular control, and invisability.When he's Fighting Ww, he's fighting someone who's used to fighting God's, and has fought the ultimate weather controller, Zeus. She is also used to battling great warriors. she has defense against his every attack.
When he's fighting supers, he fighting someone just on another lvl when it comes to feats and invulnerability. Granted his magic will prove a help to him.
The Flash is cosmically powered and whoops thor handily. The flash can beat his own jla team if he truly wished to.
In order to protect the Black Knight, Thor created a vortex surrounding the Black Knight that was completely Invisible and Intangible to all eyes except Thor’s. Also, in a quarrel against the Vision, Thor used his hammer to completely disrupt the Vision while he was in a Intangible state, thus rendering the Vision senseless. So MM major advantage is countered, and he no longer has the advantage. Thor has also shown the ability to counter telepathic assaults, being able to turn the Phoenix blast back on against her. Thus I see Thor taking this battle 7 to 8/10.
Thor has also fought Zeus, in fact he battled him for months. I also doubt she has a defense for Thor's every attack seeing as he can form and produce just about any known element in the universe. If you have proof that she has a defense against anti matter, god force, anti gravity, solar flares, reverse energy, thermo-blast, etc than I may agree with you.
Sorry, but Supes feats aren't on "another lv" as you put it than the total number of Thor's.
I would agree that Flash takes the majority in a fight with Thor. Unless I can somehow go back and find proof that Thor will be able to react fast enough to counter Flash.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
In order to protect the Black Knight, Thor created a vortex surrounding the Black Knight that was completely Invisible and Intangible to all eyes except Thor’s. Also, in a quarrel against the Vision, Thor used his hammer to completely disrupt the Vision while he was in a Intangible state, thus rendering the Vision senseless. So MM major advantage is countered, and he no longer has the advantage. Thor has also shown the ability to counter telepathic assaults, being able to turn the Phoenix blast back on against her. Thus I see Thor taking this battle 7 to 8/10.Thor has also fought Zeus, in fact he battled him for months. I also doubt she has a defense for Thor's every attack seeing as he can form and produce just about any known element in the universe. If you have proof that she has a defense against anti matter, god force, anti gravity, solar flares, reverse energy, thermo-blast, etc than I may agree with you.
Sorry, but Supes feats aren't on "another lv" as you put it than the total number of Thor's.
I would agree that Flash takes the majority in a fight with Thor. Unless I can somehow go back and find proof that Thor will be able to react fast enough to counter Flash.
well said. i knew he messed with vision while vizh was intangible, but i wanted to find the scan. i can't for the life of me remember WHERE that happened though.
1 thing i will disagree slightly with -- he wouldn't necessarily be able to deal with mm's tp like he did with phoenix's (whom he ONE-SHOTTED, btw, with that SAME bolt!) she manifested the energy in an obvious way (and i guess since it was a tp-bolt we could say he reacted FASTER than the speed of thought . . . 😖hifty: ) there is no reason mm would need to do the same. he could attack his perceptions, his sense of what is real or not. that, coupled with mm's various abilities make mm very dangerous for thor. if thor could resist the tp, i think he could ko j'onnz relatively easily as his durability is often depicted as poor. then again, mm could make his body like reed richard's and make it difficult to ko him with force. still godforce WOULD end it, if the tp wasn't enough to f%$# thor's mind enough . . .