Originally posted by Nichole
I understand. Apparently, the autospy couldn't prove rape, even though their was semen in her underwear. If this guy did kill her, he probably jerked off into her panties. I doubt her raped her-it'd be obvious.
i heard on CNN that she had a fractured skull, is that true?
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
This just makes believe in that old saying:"You can run...but you can't hide"
Glad they caught him.
I can't believe it. I thought they were never going to catch this guy. Ok, I'm sorry. I don't feel like reading the entire original post. Can someone sum up what happened? How'd they catch him? And he has confessed as well?
Originally posted by PVS
glad someone pointed that out. it was just more sensationalist garbage. im glad that this guy was caught, however am appauled by the relative lack of concern for any other murdered child. but this story will fade as quickly as it resurfaced since the apparent killer is white.
I don't think it's about race. I think the JonBanet Ramse case is such a big human interest story because of the bizarre circumstances surrounding the case, and I think it connected with lots of people in lots of different ways. First, the little girl actually looked older in some of her pictures. I think the way she looked puzzled people. Some of the pictures made her up to look 15 or 16 or so, and it was really just mind-boggling. Why and how they made her look like that is still beyond me. Also, everyone thought the parents did it, and were just going to get away with it because they were rich. Also the ambiguity of what had actually happened to her, namingly the semen in her underwear, but no bruising on her genitals, and the note for ransom, left everyone, including the police, baffled as to what really happened.
I'll agree that many stories go untold and unfairly untold, but I don't think this story gets more attention because the girl was whit. I think this story gets more attention because she was a beauty princess and all of the uncertainty of what had actually happened. This case reminds me of Columbine, though I know they are totally different. The reason for that is because the human behavior is so wierd. The Columbine kids behavior were as bizarre as the circumstances in this case. The two boys, seemingly randomly let people go, and cold-bloodedly shot others. They ordered guns on the internet and planned the assault for an entire year. One of the kids was only 5'8 and skinny, while the other was 6'3 about 220lbs, but the skinny kid was the charismatic leader. The bigger kid was actually a normal guy until he started hanging out with the other guy. The skinny kid in that case reminds me of how I'd see Tyler Derden. He was a big presence and could basically get anyone to do his bidding. Both of these cases are such big news because they baffle people, and people don't like to be baffled, and if they are baffled, they like the process of becoming unbaffled. Vague and bizarre behavior is an enigma which attracts the attention of people.
Originally posted by superman41082
I don't think it's about race. I think the JonBanet Ramse case is such a big human interest story because of the bizarre circumstances surrounding the case, and I think it connected with lots of people in lots of different ways. First, the little girl actually looked older in some of her pictures. I think the way she looked puzzled people. Some of the pictures made her up to look 15 or 16 or so, and it was really just mind-boggling. Why and how they made her look like that is still beyond me. Also, everyone thought the parents did it, and were just going to get away with it because they were rich. Also the ambiguity of what had actually happened to her, namingly the semen in her underwear, but no bruising on her genitals, and the note for ransom, left everyone, including the police, baffled as to what really happened.I'll agree that many stories go untold and unfairly untold, but I don't think this story gets more attention because the girl was whit. I think this story gets more attention because she was a beauty princess and all of the uncertainty of what had actually happened. This case reminds me of Columbine, though I know they are totally different. The reason for that is because the human behavior is so wierd. The Columbine kids behavior were as bizarre as the circumstances in this case. The two boys, seemingly randomly let people go, and cold-bloodedly shot others. They ordered guns on the internet and planned the assault for an entire year. One of the kids was only 5'8 and skinny, while the other was 6'3 about 220lbs, but the skinny kid was the charismatic leader. The bigger kid was actually a normal guy until he started hanging out with the other guy. The skinny kid in that case reminds me of how I'd see Tyler Derden. He was a big presence and could basically get anyone to do his bidding. Both of these cases are such big news because they baffle people, and people don't like to be baffled, and if they are baffled, they like the process of becoming unbaffled. Vague and bizarre behavior is an enigma which attracts the attention of people.
i was referring to the 'hook' of the story. since the "look at those psychotic parents dressing their daughter up like a prostitute...THEY KILLED HER" hook has been shot to pieces, what steam does the story have to drive it? racism would have been one such hook. that was my point. i made my statement too brief and compact...and so my bad
Re: Suspect in JonBenet Ramsey killing is arrested in Bangkok
Originally posted by Morgoths_Wrath
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No offense but really who gives a shit? There are more important things that our so-called national news centers should be covering. They are making a huge deal out of this breaking news. You'd have thought this guy murdered 100's of children by how much coverage this case is getting. Seriously, there are people still without homes in the South because of Hurricane Katrina and CNN is talking about a single little white girl who was murdered 8+ years ago. Don't take me for a cold hearted motherf-er. I can only imagine the frustration the people who truly loved her felt when she was killed but c'mon people. There are more prevelant issues facing our country.
Re: Re: Suspect in JonBenet Ramsey killing is arrested in Bangkok
Originally posted by meep-meep
Don't take me for a cold hearted motherf-er. I can only imagine the frustration the people who truly loved her felt when she was killed but c'mon people. There are more prevelant issues facing our country.
the irony is that most of the people who would label you as 'cold hearted' for saying that are the same ones who fell for the media frenzy and labeled her parents as rapists/killers of their own child.
Re: Re: Re: Suspect in JonBenet Ramsey killing is arrested in Bangkok
Originally posted by PVS
the irony is that most of the people who would label you as 'cold hearted' for saying that are the same ones who fell for the media frenzy and labeled her parents as rapists/killers of their own child.
Yes. that's a possibilty. There are many people who weakly and willingly get swept up in the media frenzy and believe every little nugget of suspicion that the media offers as a fact. I don't know if that little girls parents killed her or this new suspect did. To be honest I don't really want to concern myself with that info. That's up to the authorities in Colorado, or wherever the f the shit hit the fan. In the meantime I got other things to deal with. Like the fact my coworker died yesterday...crazy. Where's his news coverage?
Re: Re: Re: Suspect in JonBenet Ramsey killing is arrested in Bangkok
Originally posted by PVS
the irony is that most of the people who would label you as 'cold hearted' for saying that are the same ones who fell for the media frenzy and labeled her parents as rapists/killers of their own child.
This guy, Karr, is a freak. But it now appears doubtful that he's the culprit.
It's still possible that the parents are the killers, or covering for the family member that did it. Something about the Ramseys just doesn't pass the smell test...
Here's my conspiracy theory...
The father was molesting her. The mother found out and killed her daughter out of frustrated jealousy/rage/denial.
I could be wrong. It's just a guess. But I would still be concentrating on the parents in the investigation.
Originally posted by Darth Kreiger
This guy didn't do it, there were things wrong with what he said, like saying he strangled her, and drugged her, yet there were no signs of either, he just wants the attention
yes, thats what people do for attention. seek imprissonment/death penalty. congratulations, oh bright graduate of the 'bush school of logic'.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Suspect in JonBenet Ramsey killing is arrested in Bangkok
Originally posted by Dr. Zaius
It's still possible that the parents are the killers, or covering for the family member that did it. Something about the Ramseys just doesn't pass the smell test...
does that mean we get to hate the parents again? thank god