Should cartoons be replaced by Anime?

My dictionary (Oxford English) says that an epic is a certain form of poetry, or a work of prose that has the same elements as that poetry.

Hey. Do you like yaoi? Japanese gay romance comics? No, I'm not questioning your sexuality. I ask because there's published in English a cute little yaoi book called "Lost Boys." A sort of Peter Pan type story.

--Surpassing the ordinary especially in size or scale; "an epic voyage"; "of heroic proportions"; "heroic sculpture"? No; this one doesn't apply to books or TV shows.

--Constituting or having to do with or suggestive of a literary epic; "epic tradition"? Nope; Japanes yaoi comics are hardly immerced in a literary epic tradition.

--A long stroy telling of a hero's deeds? No; it's less then 200 pages.

--portrays unrealistic setting? Yes, certainly. Flying boys, fairies, and pirates.

Is Lost Boys an epic story? By your dictionary definition, no. By your first definition, yes. In my opinion? No. In your opinion...?

Why or why not?

Originally posted by General Kaliero
As can you apparently, judging by your last several posts.

If we're dealing in dictionaries and definitions, why should we take a comment as anything but literally? Literal meaning is the base of of definition, after all.

If you'd care to look again, you'll notice that my definition of the term "epic" is in concordance with yours, however different the wording may be. The hallmarks of something worthy of being called epic include a seriousness in telling, a story that can hold one's attention throughout, and, as a said, an essence of grandeur, of majesty and great things. Epics are about grand people who change entire lands.

I fail to see, even under your Webster's definition (which is, by the way, not the "official" definition, as no such thing exists), how bulging men with bad haircuts that compare "power levels" can be deemed as epic.

The term "epic" is by no means synonymous with "unrealistic." The original epics were about real men who did things worthy of being retold to generations to come. It's the way of such things to eventually pass into the definition of legend, but that's hardly solid ground for your alleged synonymy.

Also, do you have a problem with my vocabulary? What's your issue with me using words I understand and know how to use properly?

Dealing with post chroneology doesn't have the slightest thing do do with dictionary definitions, now does it? Once again, you take things too literally when my post is intended for someone who can think outside the literal meaning. If you can not do that, I suggest you never debate again.

Heh, Your definition of epic is seriously flawed. By using your definition, Lord of the Rings isn't an epic, because it didn't hold my attention? NO. What you are saying is narrow-minded view of Epic-ness. Epics have no requirement for "grandeur...majesty...great things", while even though the animes I have listed above fit them.

And yes, Websters dictionary is "official" as you can get. If you don't think so, maybe you should make your own. I'm sure it would be quite amusing.

Legend=unrealistic, my friend.

No problem with your vocabulary, but I was just letting you know, It doesn't impress me.

Calvin

Originally posted by Gregory
My dictionary (Oxford English) says that an epic is a certain form of poetry, or a work of prose that has the same elements as that poetry.

Hey. Do you like yaoi? Japanese gay romance comics? No, I'm not questioning your sexuality. I ask because there's published in English a cute little yaoi book called "Lost Boys." A sort of Peter Pan type story.

--Surpassing the ordinary especially in size or scale; "an epic voyage"; "of heroic proportions"; "heroic sculpture"? No; this one doesn't apply to books or TV shows.

--Constituting or having to do with or suggestive of a literary epic; "epic tradition"? Nope; Japanes yaoi comics are hardly immerced in a literary epic tradition.

--A long stroy telling of a hero's deeds? No; it's less then 200 pages.

--portrays unrealistic setting? Yes, certainly. Flying boys, fairies, and pirates.

Is Lost Boys an epic story? By your dictionary definition, no. By your first definition, yes. In my opinion? No. In your opinion...?

Why or why not?

Dragonball Z

--Surpassing the ordinary especially in size or scale; "an epic voyage"; "of heroic proportions"; "heroic sculpture"? Very much so. "Goku - The earth's savior" 😐

--Constituting or having to do with or suggestive of a literary epic; "epic tradition"? Maybe not in the american culture, but in the asian, most definately.

--A long stroy telling of a hero's deeds? 26 volumes, each over 200 pages. Yes.

--portrays unrealistic setting? People destroying planets? absorbing other beings? Yes

Is Lost Boys an epic story? By my defintion: YES, By yours: YES.

You're only making yourself look stupid by doing this. And have fun with your Yaoi 😉

Calvin

DBZ is only long because every single episode is exactly the same and they drag out something that could have been done in 2 episodes to last 50-60.

And no bashing on yaoi 😛

So your definition of "Epic" includes 100-page romance comics. I think that pretty much tells me everything I needed to know.

Originally posted by Gregory
So your definition of "Epic" includes 100-page romance comics. I think that pretty much tells me everything I needed to know.

You said that by your definition, Lost Boys was an epic comic.

Is Lost Boys an epic story? By my defintion: YES, By yours: YES.

By my defintion: YES

And my "little requirement checklist" was the dictionary definition that you provided.

Originally posted by Gregory
You said that by your definition, Lost Boys was an epic comic.

And my "little requirement checklist" was the dictionary definition that you provided.

both sides have their good examples: american animation had such classics as Watership Down and Secret of NIMH, whereas Anime has triumphs like Akira and Vampire Hunter D

There's bad cartoons (Ed, Edd, and Eddy) just like there's bad anime (Inuyasha). I'd personally prefer a mix of good cartoons and good anime. Neither should replace the other as neither has any real superiority over the other.

No, cartoons should not be replaced by anime. They're both special in there own way. Point Blank.

And, you above me, Inuyasha is not a bad show at all. You could have at least said something like Bobobo-bo-bobobo or something...

Originally posted by sailormoon
No, cartoons should not be replaced by anime. They're both special in there own way. Point Blank.

And, you above me, Inuyasha is not a bad show at all. You could have at least said something like Bobobo-bo-bobobo or something...

name one good thing about Inuyasha

I'm going with Kayne on this one. Please tell us how Inuyasha is not bad sailormoon. Repetitive fights, almost no plot advancement, Inuyasha is a lame character, Kagome is an unreasonable character(annoying also) and the series has gone on far longer than it should have. Don't even get me started on how terrible a character Naraku is. He's Thanos, only even lamer.

Bobobo-bo-bobobo gets points for originality

Originally posted by StyleTime
I'm going with Kayne on this one. Please tell us how Inuyasha is not bad sailormoon. Repetitive fights, almost no plot advancement, Inuyasha is a lame character, Kagome is an unreasonable character(annoying also) and the series has gone on far longer than it should have. Don't even get me started on how terrible a character Naraku is. He's Thanos, only even lamer.

Bobobo-bo-bobobo gets points for originality

Originally posted by Lana
DBZ is only long because every single episode is exactly the same and they drag out something that could have been done in 2 episodes to last 50-60.

And no bashing on yaoi 😛

Yeah, I agree, that was done pretty badly...the Manga is far superiour.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, I agree, that was done pretty badly...the Manga is far superiour.

Originally posted by Lana
DBZ is only long because every single episode is exactly the same and they drag out something that could have been done in 2 episodes to last 50-60.

And no bashing on yaoi 😛

No, Anime should NEVER replace traditional cartoons(except the bad ones)

Inuyasha = WTF? When will you end this? The first seasons were alright, but they're dragging it on, it's still a running series in Japan(might not be in recent years, I stopped paying attention to it a long time ago) Why won't they just kill the bad guy and be done with it, or at least kill him and make a new bad guy

Bad Anime is starting to take over, all regular cartoons are being replaced with things like BoBoBoBoBO(say that 50 times more) that have no plot whatsoever, and made on stupid humor. I think there needs to be less Anime, and any that does get a spot, should have to go through screening by people that arn't on drugs(Who the hell would let BoBo into American Television)

DBZ is awful. As for InuYasha...

Takahashi cannot end series worth a damn. "When will you end it," you ask? Well, there are 167 episodes (the anime ended early; the manga is still being written. And when I say the anime ended early, I don't mean they bring it to a conclussion early; they just end the damn thing without resolving the plot), just surpassing Ranma 1/2's 161 episodes, not quite reaching Urusei Yatsura's 195 episodes, but dwarfing Maison Ikkoku's mere 96 episodes. Hey, everyone, let's sing the Talentless hack song!

Originally posted by Gregory
DBZ is awful. As for InuYasha...

Takahashi cannot end series worth a damn. "When will you end it," you ask? Well, there are 167 episodes (the anime ended early; the manga is still being written. And when I say the anime ended early, I don't mean they bring it to a conclussion early; they just end the damn thing without resolving the plot), just surpassing Ranma 1/2's 161 episodes, not quite reaching Urusei Yatsura's 195 episodes, but dwarfing Maison Ikkoku's mere 96 episodes. Hey, everyone, let's sing the Talentless hack song!