Doc. Samsons strength level?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Well imo Samson is class 70 as the old handbook from the 80's states. Unless someone can prove he is stronger somewhere. There is actually more evidence that he's class 25 but that seems a bit too low.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doc_Samson Wiki states he is Class 70

"Doc Samson possesses superhuman physical abilities slightly less than a non-enraged Hulk (Around the "70 ton" range.). "

Marvel Directory states he's Class 70 too
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/d/docsamson.htm

has he been depowered ? because in the marvel universe handbook and the website it says that he can lift around 70 tons . http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/d/docsamson.htm

In the comics it appears more like he could lift 90 tons...

Wasn't Samson holding Hercules back in the newest Civil War issue? That's something I doubt a 70 tonner could do as Hercules is high(est?) 100 tonner. Hercules was able to struggle free, but it looked like he was having problems with Samson.

Originally posted by Jyppe
Wasn't Samson holding Hercules back in the newest Civil War issue? That's something I doubt a 70 tonner could do as Hercules is high(est?) 100 tonner. Hercules was able to struggle free, but it looked like he was having problems with Samson.

Herc was fighting She-Hulk and Samson at the same time 😐

i remeber about 1 year and a half ago someone dug up an old campy power rating that marvel used to publish at the back of thier comics back in the day.. and it showed a list of all the powerhouses in rows depending on theor Str. lvl and all the characters at cutesy little one liners, and in it doc sampson said "im strong as hulk in a calm state"...which is about 70-75 tons. and its been in the last 7-8 years they retconned his strentgh in proportion to the lentgh of his hair, so maybe if he took a page outta the book of bob marley he could be the strongest mofo on the planet😄

Oh well, who cares? People on KMC always overpower the characters in their threads anyways. 😂 🙄

Originally posted by snoopdogg
This comic here says 25 tons.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/sentinel13iu.jpg

His hair was fairly short, and considering what he has done, i dont know if even with that factor id call it a low showing.

And handbooks are wrong again, as usual. Samson has slugged out punch by punch with the Hulk, wich is something that usually a character like Ben, doesnt often do. Sure, hes not a match or anything, but hes not far off. Id say Thing level or even sligthy above without counting the hair being short.

Originally posted by Jyppe
Wasn't Samson holding Hercules back in the newest Civil War issue? That's something I doubt a 70 tonner could do as Hercules is high(est?) 100 tonner. Hercules was able to struggle free, but it looked like he was having problems with Samson.

But yes, point taken. Hes not that low. He has in fact better feats than Ben all around.

And just for the fanboy in me, Herc in that issue went against WonderMan, Samson, She Hulk and Spiderman.

Now, cheers. Another coffe on the way.

But remember that Namor Hercules and Wonder Man when Samson first appeared on the scene in the book he was angry and shouting at Iron Man and Wonder Man and a fight started and Hercules Namor and I believe Wonder Man dog piled on top of Samson and he threw them off.

Originally posted by olympian
I may need a coffe or two to wake up but....where does it says hes only a 25 tonner there? The fact he didnt do much against that Sentinel? (thats a question btw, since i cant tell from that page alone).

His hair was fairly short, and considering what he has done, i dont know if even with that factor id call it a low showing.

And handbooks are wrong again, as usual. Samson has slugged out punch by punch with the Hulk, wich is something that usually a character like Ben, doesnt often do. Sure, hes not a match or anything, but hes not far off. Id say Thing level or even sligthy above without counting the hair being short.

Olymps the Sentinnels says he can lift 25 tons ....

Samson should be 75-100 tons as he's stated to be equal to base Hulk.

If he's equal to Hulk's base strength(which he is), then he's easily class 100. I'm assuming nobody is buying that crap about Hulk being in the 70 ton range at base. It may have been true for pre-classic Savage Hulk, though. But even that's unlikely.

What comic is it that has Champion coming to pick the 10 strongest? I remember hearing about it, I just've never seen it. Scans?