Originally posted by roughriderchampion who was using the power gem, and thanos before he was used to his new power.
I don't want to say there is PIS in the scenes where Thanos whups Surfer, but Norrid has mixed it up physically with Champion and gotten more shots in than that. And he knocked Champ out too. Thanos had to duck and cover a lot against Champion.
I say no. Actually, I say hell no!
With prep, yes, without, no.
He can't fly at all much less ftl. His reflexes aren't lightspeed, his blast power isn't that great (Sure, he knocked off Galactus' hat, but Strange antually k.o'd ol' G-lactius.
His TP is high, but not higher than some even like Strange
All he has that puts him anywhere near Herald is he's got cosmic durability and unlimited stamina.
Originally posted by long pigCorrection, he knocked G, halfway across a planet.
I say no. Actually, I say hell no!With prep, yes, without, no.
He can't fly at all much less ftl. His reflexes aren't lightspeed, his blast power isn't that great (Sure, he knocked off Galactus' hat, but Strange antually k.o'd ol' G-lactius.
His TP is high, but not higher than some even like Strange
All he has that puts him anywhere near Herald is he's got cosmic durability and unlimited stamina.
He has also...
Originally posted by roughrider
Generally true. On paper, Surfer has more diverse power and can use it in many ways, like creating life and healing. Thanos generally sums up cosmic energy for destructive purposes only. And they can both amplify their strength to the same level, I would say. However, Thanos is very tech savvy, is a master strategist and schemer. He knows how to outhink Surfer, often by taking advantage of his morality issues. You might look at the first time they met, leading up the IG saga. Thanos was warned by Death to beware the Surfer, so played a game to distract him and send him down blind trails, while he did his quest for the infinity gems. He didn't destroy him outright, maybe because he knows he couldn't.
More diverse, not really. Thanos has healed and created life too. Thanos has used his power in diverse ways too. Just not that often as surfer. Like when he turned super skrull to stone. He is way smarter than surfer. Thanos is sky father level(before the new powerup). He went toe to toe with not just any sky father but arguably THE most powerfull sky father. Meaning a sky father lower than odin might have got his ass whooped by thanos. Now Thanos is said to be even stronger. Who knows how high up the food chain he is now...
Well everyone knows about the Odin fight, but 'other heralders' such as Drax and Surfer were 1-hit KO'd in the same panels by Odin, whilst Thanos carried on fighting him.
Also 6 heralders such as Jack of hearts,Surfer, Beta Ray bill, Gladiator etc alone weren't able to do jack to Tyrant, whilst Thanos was able to stand his own and even inflict damage to him, which is pretty impressive.
I would defo put him above Herald, also take into consideration that since those fights, hes been upgraded, so yeah I say he's above IMO.
Skyfather....debateable.