Originally posted by UniOmni
Well to get out the obvious, Superman and Wolverine.Darkseid is a skyfather, just as Izaya is.
Darky is the Father of the Apok line, and Izzy the father of the N Genesis line.Abraxas is way above skyfather level.
Superman Prime hasn't any showings to validify this rank, but its not unreasonable.
Molecule Man is a cube being, and they are explicitly over skyfathers.
Morg with WOL, is a cut above the top tier. I would never say skyfather.The 5d imps?? Nope, easily above.
M Giants?? Not going by the people who maintain that they're celestial analogues.
Superman 1 Million?? Nope.
Thanos?? Hell no.P.s. Skyfather isn't a level. Merely a title.
Odin would probably wreck Zeus, but both are skyfathers....
All a skyfather is, is basically a pantheon head or something similar.
I agree. He is a notch above now 🙂
Re: Re: Re: Name skyfather level characters
Originally posted by Juntai
You naming off Skyfather and up then?
IMO the next definate level of power is the Celstial Level, and with the exception of the Thunderbolt and maybe Ganthet no one on my list is that powerful.
More beings in the Skyfather > Celstial Level :
Watchers
Stranger
Originally posted by UniOmni
Well to get out the obvious, Superman and Wolverine.Darkseid is a skyfather, just as Izaya is.
Darky is the Father of the Apok line, and Izzy the father of the N Genesis line.Abraxas is way above skyfather level.
Superman Prime hasn't any showings to validify this rank, but its not unreasonable.
Molecule Man is a cube being, and they are explicitly over skyfathers.
Morg with WOL, is a cut above the top tier. I would never say skyfather.The 5d imps?? Nope, easily above.
M Giants?? Not going by the people who maintain that they're celestial analogues.
Superman 1 Million?? Nope.
Thanos?? Hell no.P.s. Skyfather isn't a level. Merely a title.
Odin would probably wreck Zeus, but both are skyfathers....
All a skyfather is, is basically a pantheon head or something similar.
give me some credit, i know what a Skyfather is .... but in the context of this thread its being referred to as a set level of power simillar to the Class 100 strength level (I.e. beings on the same level of power as known Skyfathers such as odin and Zeus, are considered to be Skyfather level).
IMO the next definative level beyond the Skyfather ranking is that of the Celstial. Most of the characters i've mentioned fit into that category, although i'll be the first to admit it is a broad spectrum.
I agree i was wrong about abaraxs as he is way beyond the Celestial level. Most of the other characters, you have suggested are beyond the Skyfather level are yet to prove they are nearly as powerful as the Celstials, are therefore still associated with the Skyfather level.
And if you read JLA 1 million again and see the reange of superman 1 millions powers, Im sure you'll agree he's atleast on par with Odin and Zeus.
Cube bings would be above most elder gods who ar above skyfathers
Phantom Stranger, Gathent would be more on a elder god level.
Sky-Father level beings:
this my list
Zuras- stalemated Zeus in battle
Tyrant -"normal"-took out 3 heralders and 4cosmic beings with ease
Thanos-"getting another upgrade from death during Avengers: Celestail Quest"
Mangog"Classic" even put fear in Odin.
Alan Scott-feats speak for themselves.
Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
give me some credit, i know what a Skyfather is .... but in the context of this thread its being referred to as a set level of power simillar to the Class 100 strength level (I.e. beings on the same level of power as known Skyfathers such as odin and Zeus, are considered to be Skyfather level).IMO the next definative level beyond the Skyfather ranking is that of the Celstial. Most of the characters i've mentioned fit into that category, although i'll be the first to admit it is a broad spectrum.
I agree i was wrong about abaraxs as he is way beyond the Celestial level. Most of the other characters, you have suggested are beyond the Skyfather level are yet to prove they are nearly as powerful as the Celstials, are therefore still associated with the Skyfather level.
And if you read JLA 1 million again and see the reange of superman 1 millions powers, Im sure you'll agree he's atleast on par with Odin and Zeus.
How so??
Zeus is rather unimpressive at times, but Odin rarely falls flat.
What has 1Million done thats even comparable??
With the help of a gorilla, he used force vision to stop two galaxies from coliding.
He punched through time.
Jumped from planet to planet.
Is way beyond lightspeed.
All very impressive brute showings, barring the galactic thing, but thats only brute stuff.
Odin has done things that baffle the mind.
No version of Superman has feats that place him squarely on par with Odin, imo.
Odin is hella versatile in power. 1Million would probably thrash Validus or Mangog in a fight.
But he hasn't done anything to show me Odin would even bother with him.
And after skyfather comes cube beings.
Celestials are way above skyfathers.
Imps are beyond skyfathers, in that they have true universal power.
Millenium Giants, imo were a huge failure.
They did nothing to show me that they'd wreck Odin or Darkseid.
And those are the definitive skyfathers imo.
Here's the way I see it - from top to bottom with examples. A lot of the characters I listed are actually quite tough to gauge their power level. Many of them Job.
TOAA, Presence, the Writer
1a. Pre-recton Beyonder, HOTU
1b. Multiversal/Extradimensional Abstracts/Angels - Spectre, LT, Lucifer, Michael, White Phoenix, 2nd Age Spawn, Urizen
--Infinity Gauntlet--
2. Universal Abstracts- Eternity, Death, Infinity, 100% Galactus, Abraxas? (has multiversal and universal feats so its tough to tell), Parallax/Ion
3. Celestial-level (lower lvl abstracts)- Celestials (DUH), Average Galactus, In-betweener, Lord Chaos/Master Order, Stranger (even though he jobbed recently in an X-book), Unicron, Ego
4a. Elder God/Old One level - Set, Cytorrak, Gaea, Shuma Gorath, Cthton, Kronos (possibly Celestial lvl)
4b. Cube-being level - Molecule Man, Dr. Manhattan, Kubik, Phantom Stranger (could be higher/could be lower), Hyperstorm
5. Skyfathers/Demon-Lord level - Odin, Zeus, Highfather, Mephisto, Dormammu, Darkseid (low-end), Thanos (low-end), Surtur, Annihilus (hard to judge), Melkor, Malebogia
--Dr Fate & Dr Strange--
6. Heralds - SS, Supes, Thor, Quasar, Genis, veteran Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, Sentry, Sauron
7. High-end Meta - Blackbolt, Namor, Sersi (many will argue that she's higher because of her matter transmutation abilities), Hulk, Flash (herald lvl possibly) Newbie GL
Originally posted by UniOmni
How so??Zeus is rather unimpressive at times, but Odin rarely falls flat.
What has 1Million done thats even comparable??
With the help of a gorilla, he used force vision to stop two galaxies from coliding.
He punched through time.
Jumped from planet to planet.
Is way beyond lightspeed.
All very impressive brute showings, barring the galactic thing, but thats only brute stuff.
Odin has done things that baffle the mind.
No version of Superman has feats that place him squarely on par with Odin, imo.Odin is hella versatile in power. 1Million would probably thrash Validus or Mangog in a fight.
But he hasn't done anything to show me Odin would even bother with him.And after skyfather comes cube beings.
Celestials are way above skyfathers.
Imps are beyond skyfathers, in that they have true universal power.
Millenium Giants, imo were a huge failure.
They did nothing to show me that they'd wreck Odin or Darkseid.
And those are the definitive skyfathers imo.
I was thinking more about his more creative powers such as his 10 extra forms of senses and his ESP rain. How many times have you seen Skyfathers create phsyscic rain. Faster than a Speeding Takion, More powerful than a Collapsing Sun, Able to jump fom planet to planet in single bounds, 15 forms of senses, able to create ESP rain, able to blow out Red dwarf suns with his breathe, force vision capable of holding supernova and a variety of other powers given to him by the prime Superman. I think he's easilly a match for Odin, when you consider who Odin has been beaten by in the past. (Sutur, Mangog and The Dark Gods wouldn't stand a chnace against Supes 1 million).
With the help of a Gorilla ? + confused +
The millenium Giants Where a joke and i agree with the notion that there should be a level between Skyfathers and Celestials.
Originally posted by long pig
Dammit, can we put this into the forum rules?"Skyfather" doesn't always have to mean god-heads. Doesn't have to mean Shiva or Odin or whomever, just anyone who is on their level.
It's pretty obvious most of us use the term loosely, correct?
Jerkasses. 😄
Youre saying that various Skyfathers are not Skyfather level .... a bit stupid i think.
Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Youre saying that various Skyfathers are not Skyfather level .... a bit stupid i think.
Seriously, read the post, you'll be surprised on how much you'll learn about it.