The Eternals vs the New Gods

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Takion isn't a new god by birth. he was a normal blind human named Josh Saunders who was chosen by Izaya to be his avatar. So was Stayne who was a normal woman once transformed similarly by Darkseid.

That's why i'm having trouble trusting people saying NG can create entities on other topics. That's not creating.

How about Darkseid creating Stayne, an equal and opposite to Takion?

http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takion2125zp7ua.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takion2137mg5wc.jpg

Not bad, huh?

can you give me an issue number cause i collect darkseid comics

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
can you give me an issue number cause i collect darkseid comics

thanks

Originally posted by Juntai
How about Darkseid creating Stayne, an equal and opposite to Takion?

http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takion2125zp7ua.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takion2137mg5wc.jpg

Not bad, huh?

it's great but i doubt he can do that without the further manipulation of the source. If only there are beings can can create actual sentient life from their own inert powers and not manipulate external sources like PC and the like. It's just near as impressive as Celestials able to create replicants, Galactus able to create Tyrant, etc. It's a good bet he can tip the odds to the New Gods favor by just replicating that feat and increasing their numbers.

Edit: Well maybe Nate with his sentient psychic construct can.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
it's great but i doubt he can do that without the further manipulation of the source. If only there are beings can can creat life from their own inert powers and not manipulate external sources like PC and the like. It's just as impressive as Celestials able to create replicants, Galactus able to create Tyrant, etc. It's a good bet he can tip the odds to the New Gods favor by just replicating that feat and increasing their numbers.

Yeah, thing is... that was almost a decade now. As much as people hate it, he has finally succumb to editorial butchering of a character. Based on his current showings, it is doubtful he'd even pass off nearing his former glory. I mean, come on, guy's OE(wipeout) already faltered and cracks were beggining to appear like his near defeat against Raker. And as much as we don't like it, Supes cockstrocking writers already declared his loses as the actual DS.

Anyway onto the fight. Dunno much about Kronos, but unless he's anyuwhere near Yuga khan who was absorbing galactic level power, Eternals gets wrecked.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Yeah, thing is... that was almost a decade now. As much as people hate it, he has finally succumb to editorial butchering of a character. Based on his current showings, it is doubtful he'd even pass off nearing his former glory. I mean, come on, guy's OE(wipeout) already faltered and cracks were beggining to appear like his near defeat against Raker. And as much as we don't like it, Supes cockstrocking writers already declared his loses as the actual DS.

Anyway onto the fight. Dunno much about Kronos, but unless he's anyuwhere near Yuga khan who was absorbing galactic level power, Eternals gets wrecked.

Losing to Superman wasn't the only Low showing that he's recently had.

Originally posted by Skeets
Losing to Superman wasn't the only Low showing that he's recently had.

Anything before 2000-01 has pretty much been retconned ala Jack Kirby's Fourth World and Orion.

He's only appeared a handful of times since then.

Originally posted by Juntai
He was at that power level in the late 90s and into 2000 and on. Its just that he lost to Superman, now people think he's weak for some reason, regardless of his feats. Just as Superman has defeated dozens of skyfathers, people don't like it, they see him as barely over street level or something, despite all his high cosmic showings[Assuming you've seen the what qualifies as herald level thread].

Seen them. Jimmy San's RT was just as detailed and i've got most of his appearances during the 80's, 90's.

But waitta minute. When has Superman defeated multiple Skyfathers before? I know he has defeated demons, minor cosmic entities, etc, but since when has he ever defeated a head of pantheon(other than DS that is) before?

Originally posted by Juntai
Name some others then?

Anything before 2000-01 has pretty much been retconned ala Jack Kirby's Fourth World and Orion.

He's only appeared a handful of times since then.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Seen them. Jimmy San's RT was just as detailed.

But waitta minute. When has Superman defeated multiple Skyfathers before? I know he has defeated demons, cosmic entities, etc, but since when has he ever defeated a head of pantheon(other than DS that is) before?

I was reading a Spectre book and Supes explained to Bats that t-Vo was just some Kyrptonian mediation technique.how it became the pIS power it is now is beyond me.

Originally posted by Skeets
How about getting Omega beamed in his face...😂
Doomsday.

Omega Beamed in the face happened in the Superman fight. In fact, both his loss to Superman and Orion happened directly after shooting his own face. [Orion deflected with Astro Force. WW with Bracelets]

Try again.

Originally posted by Juntai
Doomsday died via Omega Beams and then got back up, [ and that was way before the date mentioned [Hunter Prey was 1994], retconned. "It is true, you ARE beyond Death."

Omega Beamed in the face happened in the Superman fight. In fact, both his loss to Superman and Orion happened directly after shooting his own face. [Orion deflected with Astro Force. WW with Bracelets]

Try again.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Seen them. Jimmy San's RT was just as detailed and i've got most of his appearances during the 80's, 90's.

But waitta minute. When has Superman defeated multiple Skyfathers before? I know he has defeated demons, minor cosmic entities, etc, but since when has he ever defeated a head of pantheon(other than DS that is) before?

Superman is at least Herald level. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by Validus
Yuga Khan seemed more like Galactus to me except without the hunger. Both devour planets though in different ways.

I was under the impression that Darkseid was always more powerful than his Daddy. To be fair i have read little about either. I know slightly more about the New Gods though. I was under the Impression that Takion was literally the Source's representative in this Dimension, and is basically a much More Powerful version of the Surfer. Pre Crisis Darksied was on a level of Galactus. Thanks to Joseph loeb he's been turned into the Hulk with the omega Effect. Although there are hints about how powerful he still is. In OWAW, when he expelled most his power fighting Supes, Apokolips simultaneously ran out of power. This kind of suggest he is intrinsically linked to the power of Apokolips. We also know he was easilly capable of mind controling of Kara Zor El who is a Kryptoninan. Id also watch out for Metron, that chair has some pretty nifty abilities, and he's linked to a powersource that gives the OAN power batterey a run for its monney.

Originally posted by Juntai
Name some others then?

Anything before 2000-01 has pretty much been retconned ala Jack Kirby's Fourth World and Orion.

He's only appeared a handful of times since then.

Actually IIRC, it was 1997 below(okay, forgot which 199_ it was but it was definitely not 2000 above). anything above that ain't retconned yet.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Actually IIRC, it was 1997 below(okay, forgot which 199_ it was but it was definitely not 2000 above). anything above that ain't retconned yet.