Originally posted by Jesse7
Avalon they call me a fanboy for defending energy supes, when its obvious Blue supes is the better energy manipulator here.
According to these forums, Surfer is a nigh unbeatable juggernaut.
No matter what the other characters powers are, Surfer is always better.
Anything wearing an "S" shield will be bashed and given the minority. If could be Supes vs colossus and people will still say Superman loses.
Originally posted by AvalonofthewindNo, but everyone agrees that pc supes or 1 million, would destroy SS.
According to these forums, Surfer is a nigh unbeatable juggernaut.
No matter what the other characters powers are, Surfer is always better.Anything wearing an "S" shield will be bashed and given the minority. If could be Supes vs colossus and people will still say Superman loses.
Originally posted by bigbran
No, but everyone agrees that pc supes or 1 million, would destroy SS.
And If you have seen my posts lately, you will know that I think he can beat pretty much anyone under herald level. Supes that is.
You'd be surprised. I've seen people feverishly argue for SS against Pre crisis or Supes 1M.
On a side note, I have noticed a dramatic improvement in your debating lately. You seem more serious about getting things correct.
Good to see.
Originally posted by AvalonofthewindYup, I was never biased towards DC, but I didn't like it as much. Now you see me defending them, Like supes being weaker than hulk(absolutely not)
You'd be surprised. I've seen people feverishly argue for SS against Pre crisis or Supes 1M.On a side note, I have noticed a dramatic improvement in your debating lately. You seem more serious about getting things correct.
Good to see.
Originally posted by Jesse7
Avalon they call me a fanboy for defending energy supes, when its obvious Blue supes is the better energy manipulator here.
Point 1: show me a scan where SS has manipulated Psychic energy, ive never seen him do it in all his comic history.
Rols he doesn't fight against eternity, get your facts straight -_- thats the Uni-Lord I think it is or some thing along those lines, going to try and pull the card on me that says " o but he has been through countless universes and was originally a eternity but absorbed countless souls" yeah that wont work because going by feats hes no where near Eternity.
If you want to say thats Eternity, then the Millinial Giants that Supes faced are beyonders which Supes defeated, so going by feats Supes wins there.
Originally posted by Rols
Again where is the scan you posted that made him better energy manipulator than SS.. Ive seen your previous post scanned, and i dont see it being Above SS..
Soul to Psychic energy.. The only energy i havent seen him not absorbed
is magic...
Here SS fights against Eternity, Absorbed his energy and defeated him with it..
I'm not sure if those are the same thing. In one scan he's projecting images of his consciousness...something standards Supes and even Cyborg has done.
In the second scan, he's being powered by many souls.
Here Superman defeats "Saviour"... a character who's power is to create/have any power/weapon he wants.
He does this by manipulating "Psychic" energy. Still within his own body and very much under his own control. You can't make a much more PIS character than this...
This would be akin to SS going into Thor or Thanos and turning their powers off.
why do people still argue that SS is this omnipotent character that tops every version of supes, ive even seen people argue SS beats SBP or supes prime or supes 1 million.
Blue Supes wrestled an Angel of heaven, not any angel but Asmodel the archangel of heavens armies who is WAY beyond Herald, skyfather, and Abstract level, because DC angels are very powerful and to top it off its the archangel general of heavens armies.
Blue supes completely outclasses SS here but people dont see that they just name others fanboys or ss haters.
quazar beating nigh omnipatents sounds like total BS if there higher then galactus cause when surfer had the bands and he used them to there full potential galactus smacked him down, morg i dont know what your talking about what he ever did that was PIS i dont remeber much about him, but its bull that SS absorbs a sun, supes blue should kick his butt, surfer making a black hole thanos has trouble with black holes why hasnt surfer just opened one on his butt i guess surfer is stronger then thanos but keeps his little emotions in check.
Originally posted by Jesse7
why do people still argue that SS is this omnipotent character that tops every version of supes, ive even seen people argue SS beats SBP or supes prime or supes 1 million.Blue Supes wrestled an Angel of heaven, not any angel but Asmodel the archangel of heavens armies who is WAY beyond Herald, skyfather, and Abstract level, because DC angels are very powerful and to top it off its the archangel general of heavens armies.
Blue supes completely outclasses SS here but people dont see that they just name others fanboys or ss haters.
Yeah,that Asmodel feat wasn't pis... 🙄
That feat was some much BS that it was gonna be regular Supes not Blue energy Supes who did that.
Originally posted by Jesse7
You call it PIS? Sounds a bit fanboyish to me, face it that feat alone puts Blue supes above SS ^_^
how come you only responded to that part?
Just cause you visited Avalon's respect thread you're the blue Superman expert...😑
You did the same thing for Majestic..😂
Actually I know for a fact that wrestling with Asmodel puts Supes above SS for the following reasons, have you ever read the Vertigo line of comics in specific the Lucifer series, or the sandman series?
Angels are far beyond herald and sky father level, and the general of their armies, thats top tier.
Originally posted by Skeets
fanboyish get serious I'm one of the few Superman fans on here that don't accept everything he does.how come you only responded to that part?
Just cause you visited Avalon's respect thread you're the blue Superman expert...😑
You did the same thing for Majestic..😂
Ooo so I read a respect thread, and it did increase what I know about blue supes, I do like his character even though many on these boards seem to loathe him. Secondly what does it matter if I read the respect thread? Would you rather that I and everyone else be ignorant to Supes feats and limits so as to when some one debates against his character its a easy coast for the opposition?
Please, I know about the angels of DC and Supes wrestling with one puts him far above SS, call it PIS if you want but its a feat and its cannon so your going to have to deal with it.
Originally posted by Jesse7
Actually I know for a fact that wrestling with Asmodel puts Supes above SS for the following reasons, have you ever read the Vertigo line of comics in specific the Lucifer series, or the sandman series?Angels are far beyond herald and sky father level, and the general of their armies, thats top tier.
wow you act as if I havent seen what angels can do and cannot do in vertigo, you seem to dismiss any extremely high feats of Supes just because you think its PIS or that Supes just cannot do it.
Yes angels completely outclass supes, but going by that feat Supes was able to hang with Asmodel so its a feat of his none the less, I see it that Supes is far more powerful then many give him credit for being so, and that as stated in the comic he has limitless potential.
Originally posted by Jesse7Ok, then. Spiderman beat firelord.
wow you act as if I havent seen what angels can do and cannot do in vertigo, you seem to dismiss any extremely high feats of Supes just because you think its PIS or that Supes just cannot do it.Yes angels completely outclass supes, but going by that feat Supes was able to hang with Asmodel so its a feat of his none the less, I see it that Supes is far more powerful then many give him credit for being so, and that as stated in the comic he has limitless potential.
Please, I know about the angels of DC and Supes wrestling with one puts him far above SS, call it PIS if you want but its a feat and its cannon so your going to have to deal with it.
I'm not sure if those are the same thing. In one scan he's projecting images of his consciousness...something standards Supes and even Cyborg has done.
In the second scan, he's being powered by many souls.
why do people still argue that SS is this omnipotent character that tops every version of supes, ive even seen people argue SS beats SBP or supes prime or supes 1 million.
Blue Supes wrestled an Angel of heaven, not any angel but Asmodel the archangel of heavens armies who is WAY beyond Herald, skyfather, and Abstract level, because DC angels are very powerful and to top it off its the archangel general of heavens armies.
Blue supes completely outclasses SS here but people dont see that they just name others fanboys or ss haters.
In terms of feat SS has shown way above that of Blue Supes..
