Originally posted by Mithlond
My belief is that there is some kind of 'higher power', although I don't strictly follow any organised religion as I believe their messages have been too manipulated by men for political ends over the past few thousand years.However; the evidence for Evolution is overwhelming; the evidence for the creation story in the bible has several major flaws; the most prominent being that you could quite easily translate the original Hebrew to English or Latin with several different versions, so how can you be sure the bible you read has the actual true intended meaning? For example, the Hebrew word for 'days' is the same as the Hebrew word for 'ages'.
The world ISN'T just several thousand years old; it is millions of years old. There is overwhelming evidence for this. I'm sorry, but anyone who takes the creation story of Genesis as - excuse the pun - Gospel has little grasp on reality and lives in a dream world. I don't mean that as a personal slur on any individual here and I speak in generic terms.
However, that is NOT to deny the existence of a higher power, call it God, Allah, Mother Earth, etc... I agree there is too much design in the world. But, to follow the Creationist line is just, in my personal opinion, utter craziness.
You don't have to follow organized religion. You are supposed to be following Jesus, and no, Jesus did not come to bring religion. Jesus came that we might have life (eternal) and have it more abundantly.
Originally posted by ~Flamboyant~
Or something. Chemical reaction?
Flamboyant check this out and tell me what you think.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You don't have to follow organized religion. You are supposed to be following Jesus, and no, Jesus did not come to bring religion. Jesus came that we might have life (eternal) and have it more abundantly.
True i follow him to but i'd rather not be an extremist about it because that is what is destroying our country and is possibly leading us into a world war 3
Originally posted by Mithlond
My belief is that there is some kind of 'higher power', although I don't strictly follow any organised religion as I believe their messages have been too manipulated by men for political ends over the past few thousand years.However; the evidence for Evolution is overwhelming; the evidence for the creation story in the bible has several major flaws; the most CAN fit in with the Quran.prominent being that you could quite easily translate the original Hebrew to English or Latin with several different versions, so how can you be sure the bible you read has the actual true intended meaning? For example, the Hebrew word for 'days' is the same as the Hebrew word for 'ages'.
The world ISN'T just several thousand years old; it is millions of years old. There is overwhelming evidence for this. I'm sorry, but anyone who takes the creation story of Genesis as - excuse the pun - Gospel has little grasp on reality and lives in a dream world. I don't mean that as a personal slur on any individual here and I speak in generic terms.
However, that is NOT to deny the existence of a higher power, call it God, Allah, Mother Earth, etc... I agree there is too much design in the world. But, to follow the Creationist line is just, in my personal opinion, utter craziness.
Definetly agree. Especially with the last part.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Flamboyant check this out and tell me what you think.
Let me ask you something, do you truely beleive these tracts? Do you beleive that they are 100 percent truthful?
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveStill doesn't really disprove evolution.
Flamboyant check this out and tell me what you think.
Originally posted by Me_GuSta_ChoCha
I think it has a point..
See the thing is I am not an expert on evolution so I can not disprove the things that the tracts say as lies right off the bat, they probably are though judging by the propganda they spread. See I might not know much about evolution, but other topics I have some knowledge on have also been on the chick tracts and basically they have either been just been distorted, half truths, or just full out lies. I do not think Jesus liked those who lied.
Originally posted by crazy
See the thing is I am not an expert on evolution so I can not disprove the things that the tracts say as lies right off the bat, they probably are though judging by the propganda they spread. See I might not know much about evolution, but other topics I have some knowledge on have also been on the chick tracts and basically they have either been just been distorted, half truths, or just full out lies. I do not think Jesus liked those who lied.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You don't have to follow organized religion. You are supposed to be following Jesus, and no, Jesus did not come to bring religion. Jesus came that we might have life (eternal) and have it more abundantly.
If you are a Christian, you should be following Jesus if you are a Muslim, you should be following Mohammed PBUH.
I believe Jesus lived, I like his messages, I try to live my life by them. But, I don't go to Church, and I certainly don't partake of Creationist theory.
Like I said before, the bible wasn't sent to us from God by fax or email - it was written by men, and is as prone to human error and influence as anything else.
But - if I had to 'put myself' into a religion, I would be an open-minded Christian with elements of Buddhism as well.
Originally posted by Mithlond
If you are a Christian, you should be following Jesus if you are a Muslim, you should be following Mohammed PBUH.I believe Jesus lived, I like his messages, I try to live my life by them. But, I don't go to Church, and I certainly don't partake of Creationist theory.
Like I said before, the bible wasn't sent to us from God by fax or email - it was written by men, and is as prone to human error and influence as anything else.
But - if I had to 'put myself' into a religion, I would be an open-minded Christian with elements of Buddhism as well.
Negative. You cannot do that. According to the Bible, God must be first in everything He is a Jealous God (simply meaning you must worship and serve Him exclusively or not at all)
Exodus 34:14
(for you shall worship no other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God ),
Jesus picked up on this same principle but phrased and expressed this another way:
Luke 14:26
“If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.
Sigh, gasp ! Is Jesus telling us to hate our family and ourselves?
No. Jesus is simply saying the same thing that His Father said but in a different way: He must be first.
Deuteronomy 5:16
‘ Honor your father and your mother, as the LORD your God has commanded you, that your days may be long, and that it may be well with you in the land which the LORD your God is giving you.
Ephesians 6:1
Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right.
Colossians 3:20
Children, obey your parents in all things, for this is well pleasing to the Lord.
Originally posted by Me_GuSta_ChoChaNo, because it involves me spamming up the thread, calling the creationists morons, getting warned by a mod, and then 5 other people doing exactly what I did later on, but in parts.
Ye Dont they Kick ass! 😄
During which, the creationists make complete asses of themselves, the thread dies, and then another one comes along, starts a new thread, and then it all starts all over again.
Originally posted by lord xyz
No, because it involves me spamming up the thread, calling the creationists morons, getting warned by a mod, and then 5 other people doing exactly what I did later on, but in parts.During which, the creationists make complete asses of themselves, the thread dies, and then another one comes along, starts a new thread, and then it all starts all over again.
ye i hate wen people take da creation story literally, but at least its easy to prove a point and gives sumten to do at this time 🙂