Creation vs Evolution

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Religion may bring hope, and belief but it also brings trouble. Take the religion Wars in Europe or today's Arabian terrorists for example.

That's why I said, at its best. Religion, like science, politics or whatever, can be abused.

Originally posted by Mindship
Even Jesus would tell you that (that's my belief), if and when he ever gets here.

Wouldn't that be...uh...the opposite of what would happen?

Originally posted by Mindship

A "theory" is not a one-dimensional entity. Some are better than others. Why? Well, Science (which is basically applied common sense) offers a significant level of predictability. Religion doesn't. This is why everyone uses applied common sense in everyday life (some more than others), whether they realize it or not. Because it works .

Religion, at its best, offers hope, inspiration and compassion. But as a predictor of outcome, it is the wrong tool for the job.

Even Jesus would tell you that (that's my belief), if and when he ever gets here.

😆 good luck with that. if Jesus came a second time it would prove the validity of the Bible and religion

The bible does not entirely say that there was no evolution. Personally i think evolution and creation are two things that actually happened, some biblical interpreters made the mistakes and translated the bible poorly and thus we have a conflict between the two. If you guys are interested maybe i'll check here again and tell you more about it, and i have some legitimate points on this so do not think i'm making pure rubbish post.

Perhaps there is a God but not in the ways we understand. Maybe there is some kind cosmic power but it's not God or Allah or anyone like that. I think it's pretty obvious that the bible is wrong. First one has to wonder why God would waist his time with us there, are trillions of galaxies even if there is only one intelligent species in each one then that means there are trillions of intelligent species. It seems strange that God would care so much about us, do you care so much about the insects in your garden? Another thing is if God created us then why do we live in such a horrible world? If God is perfect than shouldn't we be? It's my opinion that religion was created for one reason and that is the ability to control an manipulate the masses. Take the wars during the medieval centuries for example, all for material gain.

Originally posted by m. sade
😆 good luck with that. if Jesus came a second time it would prove the validity of the Bible and religion
But he keeps coming. He was in California, he made the papers, and he was hitchhiking around the country spreading the word. I did not make this up........But he's not the only one. There are other Jesus' too.......Which one to follow, I'm confused.......WHO HAS THE TRUTH........ 🙁 😕

Even Jesus would tell you that (that's my belief), if and when he ever gets here.

Perhaps I should've said...
"Even Jesus would tell you that (that's my belief -- WINK 😉 Trying-to-make-a-point-that-not-all-beliefs-are-created-equal), if and when he ever gets here."

Note to self: do Not quit day job.

Creation and Belief:

Belief is the engine of creation. Any glitch in the belief will only derail it for you to participate and use it, and see it....The knowledge is the key that unlocks old belief systems and opens the door to greater and greater realities, and furthermore, knowledge strengthens one's belief in the TRUE workings of the universe, thus empowering us.....The most drastic countermeasures is fear. As Jesus said "Seek and ye shall find, knock and it shall be opened to you...Matthew 7:8.

It's funny the symbolism of the "Staff"...Moses had one, Yoda and Gandalf had one...The staff is the symbol of knowledge and one takes it with him/her where they go...And knowledge creates.

"And commanded them that they should take nothing for their journey, save a staff only; no scrip, no bread, no money in their purse" Mark 6:8

Creation evidence 0%

Evolution evidence 99% (or .00000000001% if you dislike Evolution)

The problem is that Creation has no evidence except its ability to try to refute Evolution. I have no problem with those who believe in Creation (in fact I respect faith in all its forms) but it does not have a place in the teachings of science.

debbiejo have you considered that a staff is also a major phallic symbol?

Maybe she should just consider that Jews back in those days had two major domestic possessions: their cloak, which they slept in because beds weren't invented and their staff because they walked everwhere. There is no intended symbolism with the staff in the Bible.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos

debbiejo have you considered that a staff is also a major phallic symbol?
Seems everything that is long, straight and pointy is a phallic symbol..... 😂 Though I've read that the "Staff" in most stories are a representation of knowledge and wisdom....Like Harry Potter and their wands.....They knew something that others didn't and the staff represents that knowledge and usage of it. That there was power in that knowledge.

That though is interesting again. The staff equals wisdom, knowledge and magic which comes with the wisdom of creating. And alllllll those little phallics attached to men just love to go around and create something....lol
This would explain why many of the early churchs had phallic symbols that they would ......ah....ummm.....Well, do their , ya know....Ok, they would ejaculate on it and believed they would be blessed. They had these penis things everywhere. It was really quite disgusting. It was also pagan Just like the blood of a women was worshiped and thought to have magic to it, because women create more then men, at least we show proof....Men just wanted to be....wanted to be equal with us..... 😈

Basically, the staff is a symbol of potency, not just phallic. It also figures in healing (the caduceus). In any event, its potency symbolism hails from the earliest of times and simplest of reasons: when our apelike ancestors began using objects in their environment to defend themselves, sticks were right up there with stones. Heck, even feral chimpanzees today will pick up a branch and thrash it about to look as menacing as possible.

OK OK I'm not a freudian psychologist you don't need to convince me that a staff isn't neccesarily a phallic object

I just wanted to bring up another interperetation of the recurence of staffs in mythology

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
OK OK I'm not a freudian psychologist you don't need to convince me that a staff isn't neccesarily a phallic object

I just wanted to bring up another interperetation of the recurence of staffs in mythology

Moses controlled the water with a dick?

Originally posted by lord xyz
Moses controlled the water with a dick?

He had the magic stick 😂

Originally posted by Marxman
He had the magic stick 😂
He also had a beard.

Originally posted by the_satan32

Perhaps there is a God but not in the ways we understand. Maybe there is some kind cosmic power but it's not God or Allah or anyone like that. I think it's pretty obvious that the bible is wrong. First one has to wonder why God would waist his time with us there, are trillions of galaxies even if there is only one intelligent species in each one then that means there are trillions of intelligent species. It seems strange that God would care so much about us, do you care so much about the insects in your garden? Another thing is if God created us then why do we live in such a horrible world? If God is perfect than shouldn't we be? It's my opinion that religion was created for one reason and that is the ability to control an manipulate the masses. Take the wars during the medieval centuries for example, all for material gain.

First of all, those greedy people who were in power during those times used God's word and twisted it to their own purposes to launch a maasive war against people who did not agree with them, and God never said to make war with other nations. Jesus preached peace and holy life not war.
Second, God has a purpose for us humans and that is to make us PERFECT one day, think about it, why would God and Jesus grant us ETERNAL life if he didn't have a reason for it? We just don't know why yet, but I'm certain that me and a lot of people out ther do not want to die, then immortality is the answer.

Finally you need to lighten up dude.LOL

Originally posted by HULKSTER04

First of all, those greedy people who were in power during those times used God's word and twisted it to their own purposes to launch a maasive war against people who did not agree with them, and God never said to make war with other nations. Jesus preached peace and holy life not war.

actually in the OT god did start his share of wars

you are right about Jesus though he was a nice guy even though people kill in his name

Originally posted by HULKSTER04

Second, God has a purpose for us humans and that is to make us PERFECT one day, think about it, why would God and Jesus grant us ETERNAL life if he didn't have a reason for it? We just don't know why yet, but I'm certain that me and a lot of people out ther do not want to die, then immortality is the answer.

I don't know if God has a purpose for us but if he does I doubt its perfection (that would put him out of a job)

Originally posted by HULKSTER04

Finally you need to lighten up dude.LOL

Its the a religion forum dude there are two types of people here

extremists for their beliefs and people who make jokes about them (plus people who flip between them and I don't know where Debbiejoe goes)

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
(plus people who flip between them and I don't know where Debbiejoe goes)
The Hospital for the mentally challenged.