What does everything REALLY look like...?

I was just thinking...we know that vision is just a trick of light and how our eyes perceive the color bouncing off everything to reach our retina. In other words, physics has proven that the world we see is dependant on the eyes we have. Dogs, for instance see differently than we do. Certain things are veiled to them. Similarly what we see is dependant on the strength and abilibilty of our eyes.

What I'm saying is, what does the world look like independant of the sight we see through our eyes. My hair looks brown because the interplay of light makes it seem so to human eyes. What does it look like regardless of how human eyes percieve it? What does this world look like? Is everything just an illusion created by the phenomenon that is our sight? 😕

interesting thoughts you have brought up ✅ i dont know, nor do i tihnk anyone knows, but it would be interesting to discover it ✅

to see what the world turly looks like, become colorblind, and get a cataracts

Originally posted by Mr. Bacon
interesting thoughts you have brought up ✅ i dont know, nor do i tihnk anyone knows, but it would be interesting to discover it ✅

Yeah..we can't ever know. 😬Our inherent limitations will always hinder our knowledge and scienetific progress i guess...

Originally posted by Strangelove
to see what the world turly looks like, become colorblind, and get a cataracts

interplay of light is still present when looking through colorblind eyes.

You could combine the visions of all species at once.

Or you could just accept that the eye's take up to a frequency and number of colors and light and such, it isn't so much a 'trick' as it is our eyes developed for picking up certain frequencies, brightnesses, etc...

bleh, what I'm trying to say is, what we see exists and is there for us to see, but there is a lot more our eyes aren't evolved enough to see... bleh, probalby doesn't make any sense, kinda tired.

I had this thought since i was only a toddler, and now i know theres not really an answer depending on what person, place or thing you mean. Everything is a noun pretty much.

Originally posted by Lumanix
You could combine the visions of all species at once.

Or you could just accept that the eye's take up to a frequency and number of colors and light and such, it isn't so much a 'trick' as it is our eyes developed for picking up certain frequencies, brightnesses, etc...

bleh, what I'm trying to say is, what [b]we see exists and is there for us to see, but there is a lot more our eyes aren't evolved enough to see... bleh, probalby doesn't make any sense, kinda tired. [/B]

that's the problem. species doesn't make any difference. the world would still be percieved through a concoction of cells and skin. Cells and skin can't be the only or even an accurate way with which to look at the world.

im gonna take a different perspective on this, dont think about how the world looks colors and crap.....but look at what we do, we go work for a living, get paid eat blah blah buy crap blah blah, work get paid eat buy, hate, love, war, i know why we love 😉 but look at most of life its a revolving circle that slowly deforms as we grow old, what is the point to working and alll that crap.....wow ok ill think about a better way to sum up what i wanna say a different day its late and this is jus taking up time 🙂

Originally posted by Punkyhermy
I was just thinking...we know that vision is just a trick of light and how our eyes perceive the color bouncing off everything to reach our retina. In other words, physics has proven that the world we see is dependant on the eyes we have. Dogs, for instance see differently than we do. Certain things are veiled to them. Similarly what we see is dependant on the strength and abilibilty of our eyes.

What I'm saying is, what does the world look like [b]independant of the sight we see through our eyes. My hair looks brown because the interplay of light makes it seem so to human eyes. What does it look like regardless of how human eyes percieve it? What does this world look like? Is everything just an illusion created by the phenomenon that is our sight? 😕 [/B]

well if it wasn't for your intellect you'd be seeing everything up side down...you only see things the right way cause your logic tells you that it has to be the other way around

I always thought the world is how a certain person sees it. Like, you see a blue shirt "thats a nice shade of blue!" the person next to you says "No.. thats purple".

Right now in my house, everything is less colourful, and slightly grey, because I'm tired. Now an awake person who is in a nice mood, probably sees all the colour.

There are a number of different devices to percieve the true nature of the world.

To do so, you'd have to see the world through the entire vision spectrum, from infrared light to ultraviolet light.

Fortunately, we have all of the technology to do so.

The technology we have to help up see things better, also counterpart on mucking everything up, liek your signature for examlpe (no offence its very nice and shes very pretty) BUT she looks nothing like that in person. Her skin is uneven, her legs are preobably shaped different, as her breasts, due to the intense photoshopping they do on every picture used in modeling nowadays.

Originally posted by Punkyhermy
I was just thinking...we know that vision is just a trick of light and how our eyes perceive the color bouncing off everything to reach our retina. In other words, physics has proven that the world we see is dependant on the eyes we have. Dogs, for instance see differently than we do. Certain things are veiled to them. Similarly what we see is dependant on the strength and abilibilty of our eyes.

What I'm saying is, what does the world look like [b]independant of the sight we see through our eyes. My hair looks brown because the interplay of light makes it seem so to human eyes. What does it look like regardless of how human eyes percieve it? What does this world look like? Is everything just an illusion created by the phenomenon that is our sight? 😕 [/B]

I suggest you ask an extra-terrestrial.

Without light everything would just be black, we so we couldn't see, everything would still have the same shape, but what is the real question is what is there without any senses to perceive it....and I don't think that's so easy to answer. It would probably just be atoms floating around and a lot of nothing in between.

Just because how we see is a perceptual issue, that does not make it an illusion.

That dogs see things differently is not because it is all relative, it is simply because their visual system isn't as good as ours. Their senses work better elsewhere.

The way that light works, and splits, and so on, is a matter of hard physics, not mere organic whim.

So there is no 'independant' way the universe looks. The Universe is a large and complex thing with many attriubtes that can be perceived. Any one life form perceives it in different ways, and of varying qualities. And as Sandman talks about, any 'true' natrue oif the Universe here would have to deal with all of them simultaneously, not choosing one.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Just because how we see is a perceptual issue, that does not make it an illusion.

That dogs see things differently is not because it is all relative, it is simply because their visual system isn't as good as ours. Their senses work better elsewhere.

The way that light works, and splits, and so on, is a matter of hard physics, not mere organic whim.

So there is no 'independant' way the universe looks. The Universe is a large and complex thing with many attriubtes that can be perceived. Any one life form perceives it in different ways, and of varying qualities. And as Sandman talks about, any 'true' natrue oif the Universe here would have to deal with all of them simultaneously, not choosing one.

Well, or go into the smallest possible detail of everything.

But even tehn without some sort of perceiving you wouldn't klnow what that is. I think what she was aiming at is that in some sort of "God Reality" what I perceive as a table could be a ball or something.

Then again isn't every coordinate in the Universe basically jsut a few attributes anyways?

What does Bardock really look like...? hmm

Originally posted by Lumanix
What does Bardock [b]really look like...? hmm [/B]