Emperor Ashtar
Balloooooooooooooon
Originally posted by Sado22
As for Ryu. the way i look at it, his 3 moves aren't really helping. Ryo's moves are faster and probably as strong if not more. Also Ryo has up to 8 moves (koken, koho, heinshippukyaku, zanrestsuzan, the uppercut thing, the other uppercut thing, the 4hitjuggle combo thing)
analyze:
ko-ken/hadouken: given that Ryo does it with one hand, and that story wise, Ryu's hadou-ken is the strongest of all the shoto-clones, i think hadou-ken pwns ko-ken (and has a cooler name). by the way emperor, tiamat tends to change and update his info a lot and with more interviews with teh capcom officials, more and more of his stuff tends to get changed. try getting the uptodate one. i had an older version of it and after a few months when i got a new one, it had lots changes in it. just thought i'd let you now.
ko-ho/shoryuken: if its SF3 Ryu, i'm giving it to Ryu. otherwise, i'd say equal.
hienshipuukyaku: i'd give Ryo the edge with this one as it is faster and more long ranged.
other than that, Ryo has more moves. his specials:
shinkuuhadouken/haohshikoken: don't see ryu succesful in this. not only is ryo's special HUGE and FAST as hell, the SDM version is a monster.
denjinhadouken/haohshikoken: dont know if its a good idea to remain charging for so long against RYo's faster and bigger projectile.
shinshoryuken/ichigekihisatsu: its all in the matter of timing in this one. if ryu pulls it off earlier, he'll pwn Ryo but with Ryo's rooted style it'll be harder. Same goes with Ryo, since Ryu too tends to be more rooted. also Ryo's super is stronger (looking at it in game since SNK never actually provided a clear proof of its power). it takes more with ONE hit as Ryu's three hits (barring EX series since they suck and aren't canon). also as a counter attack its a beast. if he catches Ryu with that during a tatsumakisenpukyaku or any other move, ryu's a goner.
shinkuutatsumakisenpuukyaky/ryokorenbu: ryo's move is a blur. its fast, powerful and absolutely overwhelming. shinkuuTT is short ranged and the only thing going for it is that it sucks people in.
so there you go. with superior speed, range and rooted style IMO Ryo takes this one.
~Sado
Ryu, has more than three moves he has four: Hadouken,shoryuken, tatsumaki senpuu kyaku, and joudan. Plus there's the various varitaitons of said moves.
Also, I'm trying to look at this objectively, how is ryo's moves more powerful and faster? Anyway here are my comparisons
Ko ou ken Vs Hadouken: Honestly, they look about the same, even though ryu has master his hadouken I'm not giving him an edge because of that only. Ryu has Shinkuu Hadouken which is similar to the hoashishoken. I dunno which is tronger, gamewise the hoashishoken is bigger but, that's only gamewise. Denjin has the start up of a charged haoshishoken but, it's unsupressable and has damaging effects due to the electric current it carries. Ryu has more projectiles than Ryo.
Koho-Ken Vs Shoryuken: Shoryuken wins, honestly ryo has never shown any strength with the shou ken at all. Nevermind that shoryuken is a very consistent on hit K.O. move. Ryu, ko'ed adon with one shoryuken in the first Street Fighter tournament for example. Also, there's the Shin-Shoryu-Ken, now before you bring up hugo I might add that the Shin-ShoRyu-Ken is one of the strongest moves in the Street Fighter universe. It packs enough power to kill someone. Hugo survivng it says more about his endurance then the moves strength.
Tatsumaki Senpuu Kyaku Vs heinshippukyaku: If it's the regular tatsumaki, thenryo's Heinshippuken should be able to knock him down with ease. But, if it's the EX or Super Version, Ryo will most likely get sucked in.
They have range, but ryu has more versatility with his. speed, Ryu's fast but, for the sake of argument give it this to ryo. Power, no question ryu. Ryo's power comes from his proper rooting and conditioning of his style. Ryu, barely use's rooting and he can generate alot of power.Experience ryu no question:10,000 plus opponents vs Less then 20.
Shinshoryuken VS Ichigekihisatsu: These two try to capture the japanese warriors maxim "Hissatsu Ichigeki" "One Strike, Instant Kill". Ryu's uses the linear power to launch his opponent 40 feet into the air easy. While ryo sends his opponent flying horizontinally away.
Ryo's super has a stronger start up since it takes one blow to send you flying ,But ryu's has a better finish, since you fall from 40 feet.
I believe ryu can use his moves better, since he's had such a long time and experience to use it. Ryo is to tradtional too rigid, he lacks the experienced of a seasoned fighter.Ryu, on the other hand is a fighting legend so he takes it.
EDIT: Oh, yeah I know about tiamats updates, I've been following it since 4.0 and I'm registered in the same forum as him and alot of people who wrote said plot guide.