Goblin owns Venom, seriously, Ultimate venom has vulnerability to most things (not like his 616 counterpart) and they are as Strong as him. And about the video game comment, I had play the video game and venom cannot adsorb people with enough power or he gets depowered as well, plus has the disadvantaged that he will energy do to the fact has to be Feed frequently start to feed in Brook
Originally posted by Ultraman Baltanreally? How come? I mean Venom is stronger (not by a big deal, but still) he is also a bit more durable you can check it anywhere I even have The Official Handbook of Marvel Universe 2004: Spider-Man there it says Venom's durability is 5/7 (bulletproof) and GG durability 4/7 (regenerative). Not to mention Venom has Spidey's speed.
Actually, I believe 616 GG has what it takes to beat 616 Venom.
Don't get me wrong I'm not underrestimating GG but I don't see what GG could to Venom that Venom can't evade/dodge or recover from.
If Venom is careful and plays it smart he would really win, if not then GG has good chances of winning.
Originally posted by blind faith
really? How come? I mean Venom is stronger (not by a big deal, but still) he is also a bit more durable you can check it anywhere I even have The Official Handbook of Marvel Universe 2004: Spider-Man there it says Venom's durability is 5/7 (bulletproof) and GG durability 4/7 (regenerative). Not to mention Venom has Spidey's speed.Don't get me wrong I'm not underrestimating GG but I don't see what GG could to Venom that Venom can't evade/dodge or recover from.
If Venom is careful and plays it smart he would really win, if not then GG has good chances of winning.
Norman is really strong and durable, which helps in a h2h fight with Brock. Even then, Venom may be too much, so since GG has absolutely incredible reflexes(read some stuff I wrote on other threads) which would allow him to grab out numerous weapons that could beat Venom. I mean, that Oxygen Bomb from issue 39 of ASM was made specifically to kill anyone in an instant. Pete barely survived. Plus, the Flash, Sonic(MAJOR help), and Whopper(another huge help) could do a ton of damage to beating Venom. Also, like I said before, in h2h combat I believe Norman has a chance there as well. He regenerates faster, is more durable, is way more skilled, and is immensely strong(way more than class 10). He has what it takes to beat 616 Venom.
Originally posted by Ultraman BaltanAgreed but the same can be said about Venom considering he is the stronger and more durable. 😉
Norman is really strong and durable, which helps in a h2h fight with Brock.
Originally posted by Ultraman BaltanYep that's likely IF Venom is playing it dumb by being uncareful but Venom has also, like GG, good reflexes and can avoid many attacks, don't forget that Venom can also camoflauge himself which would make it a bit difficult to GG. Venom could camouflauge and use some symbiote tendrils to suffocate GG (unless GG suddenly doesn't need to breathe) since he is stronger.
Even then, Venom may be too much, so since GG has absolutely incredible reflexes(read some stuff I wrote on other threads) which would allow him to grab out numerous weapons that could beat Venom.
Originally posted by Ultraman BaltanYep Pete could barely survive it but he did survive and GG was quite surprised that he survived but Venom can take it, considering he is tougher than Spidey and has taken worse than that. He sacrificed himself in the end of Maximum Carnage and throwed himself with Carnage and hitted some generators that made the place blow up and he survived it. Or when Styx touched Venom and the symbiote survived.
I mean, that Oxygen Bomb from issue 39 of ASM was made specifically to kill anyone in an instant. Pete barely survived.
Originally posted by Ultraman BaltanSonic is the threat of these weapons since it is one of Venom's main weaknesses but he can take large amounts of this like in "Savage Alliance" when Spidey shot Venom with a sonic gun and he was barely hurt by it and continued fighting with no problem. This "Whooper" what is that weapon? Is it those pumpkin bombs or what is it? Sorry but I don't know which weapon you mean. Anyway Venom can take quite alot damage with his crazy durability which means that GG would have to make up a plan with his weapons to beat Venom.
Plus, the Flash, Sonic(MAJOR help), and Whopper(another huge help) could do a ton of damage to beating Venom.
Originally posted by Ultraman BaltanHe has a chance, however, Venom has a better chance.
Also, like I said before, in h2h combat I believe Norman has a chance there as well
Originally posted by Ultraman BaltanGG regenerates faster than Venom? I'm not saying you're wrong or anything but Venom regenerates very fast too so I'm not sure on that. However Venom is more durable than GG please read my previous post where I mentioned their durability statistics. GG more skilled? Exactly based on what? Also Venom is way more than class 10. Venom wins.
He regenerates faster, is more durable, is way more skilled, and is immensely strong(way more than class 10). He has what it takes to beat 616 Venom.
but he can take large amounts of this like in "Savage Alliance" when Spidey shot Venom with a sonic gun and he was barely hurt by it and continued fighting with no problem.
The time Torchy and Spiderman went to get Venom from the deserted island? Barely hurt him? Not really, he was nearly paralyzed.. Only because of his hate he could keep on fighting spiderman. Unless I don't remember it that well.
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In a h2h fight Venom takes it.. He's a lot stronger and more durable..
Originally posted by JyppeYes I meant that fight on the island. Venom said it hurted him but it didn't stop him from beating down Spidey that was my point. 😉
The time Torchy and Spiderman went to get Venom from the deserted island? Barely hurt him? Not really, he was nearly paralyzed.. Only because of his hate he could keep on fighting spiderman. Unless I don't remember it that well.
--In a h2h fight Venom takes it.. He's a lot stronger and more durable..
Originally posted by JyppeTrue and true.
In a h2h fight Venom takes it.. He's a lot stronger and more durable..
Originally posted by blind faith
GG regenerates faster than Venom? I'm not saying you're wrong or anything but Venom regenerates very fast too so I'm not sure on that. However Venom is more durable than GG please read my previous post where I mentioned their durability statistics. GG more skilled? Exactly based on what? Also Venom is way more than class 10. Venom wins.
It doesn't matter who regenerates faster. As long as he can, he can win. GG took a Whopper Bomb, which is pretty much the explosion from Maximum Carnage in a little ball(not to mention also getting punched a billion times by Spiderman and getting hit by electricity). If he can get up after that, he is immensely durable, possibly even more than Venom. GG is more skilled, actually. Spidey admitted that Norman does have more skill than himself, and Spiderman is more skilled than Venom. Over the years, Goblin has been gaining a ton of skill, and is now good enough to fight WITHOUT power(not Venom, but others).
Goblin has what it takes to beat Venom 6/10 in 616 in hand to hand combat.
Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
It doesn't matter who regenerates faster. As long as he can, he can win. GG took a Whopper Bomb, which is pretty much the explosion from Maximum Carnage in a little ball(not to mention also getting punched a billion times by Spiderman and getting hit by electricity). If he can get up after that, he is immensely durable, possibly even more than Venom. GG is more skilled, actually. Spidey admitted that Norman does have more skill than himself, and Spiderman is more skilled than Venom. Over the years, Goblin has been gaining a ton of skill, and is now good enough to fight WITHOUT power(not Venom, but others).Goblin has what it takes to beat Venom 6/10 in 616 in hand to hand combat.
Spider-man's punches still hurt Goblin and they have no effect on Venom at all. As for being blown up, Venom was hit with an anti-tank missile and then with dozens granades at the same time. He can take punches from likes of Hulk and Juggernaut. Sorry but Goblins durability is nowhere near Venom's. Neither is strength or speed. As for healing, Venom's clone regenerated his hand in second after it was cut by Wolverine.