Who Has The Strongest Will?

Started by Darth Martin10 pages

He at times has great willpower.

Originally posted by galan7777777
that was the only good part of house of!, but what powers of will were better in "avengers:dissassembeled?

Im not saying that 😕

Im just angry because Bendis made mockery of the character in Avengers: Dissembelled and it was crap.

Heck the only decent thing out of Avengers: Diss. was the impact it had on the MU. 😬

Originally posted by Darth Martin
He at times has great willpower.
i dont really follw ironman, can u tell me about when he has had great will power?

Originally posted by Darth Martin
He at times has great willpower.

Not really 😬

I mean he didnt beat Alchohalism on his own now did he? 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Grimm22
Im not saying that 😕

Im just angry because Bendis made mockery of the character in Avengers: Dissembelled and it was crap.

Heck the only decent thing out of Avengers: Diss. was the impact it had on the MU. 😬

yeah, i was gonna say, that story arch was total crap in my oppinnion

Originally posted by kevdude
Didn't LT oppose Warlock with the IG Master?

That's correct.

LT's power is above the IG.

Originally posted by kevdude
IF he can oppose Warlock then I wouldn't really say he's really TOAA"God"

Not exactly, the thing is,
TOAA, and LT are the only characters Above the IG, I suppose GOD (the Artist) too, but we have only heard of and seen this being once in a FF issue.

And if the wielder of the IG wishes to become Reality without distorting it, the Living Tribunal will NOT interfere.

Eternity asking LT for help against Thanos with the IG

LT refuses because:

"Natural selection is one of the Universe's oldest canons, the strong replace the weak..."

Originally posted by kevdude
Also didn't Warlock blast Eternity with the IG and Eternity said that if it was his full being there Eternity wouldn't have been effected by the IG?

Right.

But Eternity was referring to Multi-Eternity or the Multi-verse

This ofcourse was before the IG performed it's greatest FEAT, OWNING the Ultimate Nullifier (which can Remake the Multi-verse)

He couldn't have been referring to himself as Eternity the Single Universe in Full, cause we know what happened when he came out guns blazing:

hmmm, if thanos and adam warlock with the IG were "god" as it says, then exactly what would you call thanos /w/ THOTU? because he was still below TOAA, but yet had much more power then the IG....... my oppinnion of that is that thanos and warlock /w/ the IG were the god in that particular universe, while thanos /w/ THOTU was god over the entire multi-verse, or omni-reality as he called it....... is my interpretation of this true mr.master?

Originally posted by Big Sexy
what I remember is Eternity and all the other abstracts dropping under it.

What do you mean?

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Then Eternity tells LT that Warlock is unworthy because he can't even control his temper.

Warlock first blasted Eternity to the ground, then Eternity made that remark, then Warlcok obliterated Eternity and the Abstracts, then LT stopped the Attack and remade everything back to normal with a gesture.

Originally posted by HisMajestyAC43
being that any other power hungry villain/hero/whatever, would be overcome with greed and eventually lose control of the situation. i think that this just goes to show that thanos posseses a will much more potent than any other character.

Well put.

Originally posted by galan7777777
i agree with this, i believe that thanos's will has been his biggest downfall in his past battles, whether he was "superpowered" or whether he was not

He wasn't saying Thanos's Will was his downfall.

He's saying Thanos's Will has been his saviour.

Originally posted by Mr Master
He wasn't saying Thanos's Will was his downfall.

He's saying Thanos's Will has been his saviour.

i do think that thanos's will is greater then most, but if was not for his self doubt in certian situations, then he would not have been beaten by some of the lesser beings

This is starting to evolve into dignity and pride.

Originally posted by galan7777777
hmmm, if thanos and adam warlock with the IG were "god" as it says, then exactly what would you call thanos /w/ THOTU? because he was still below TOAA, but yet had much more power then the IG....... my oppinnion of that is that thanos and warlock /w/ the IG were the god in that particular universe, while thanos /w/ THOTU was god over the entire multi-verse, or omni-reality as he called it....... is my interpretation of this true mr.master?
can some1 answer this? cause im not sure

Nah like Doom, Thano's downfall is usually his pride or his ego

Originally posted by galan7777777
hmmm, if thanos and adam warlock with the IG were "god" as it says, then exactly what would you call thanos /w/ THOTU?

TOAA.

Originally posted by galan7777777
because he was still below TOAA,

Thanos had the power of TOAA, but NOT the Omniscience of TOAA.

Which is why TOAA was able to manipulate Thanos like a child.

TOAA coerced that entire event.

Originally posted by galan7777777
my oppinnion of that is that thanos and warlock /w/ the IG were the god in that particular universe,

I think not.

Magus with an Incomplete IG was controlling TWO Universes at once from ANOTHER Universe that was seperated from both.

Here Galactus sends Thor back to our universe

This is what is happening with our Universe, because of Magus

Magus Remakes the Universe in his image from Universes away

And that was with an INCOMPLETE IG, don't make me pop out a dozen COMPLETE IG Multibversal feats please. 😂

Originally posted by galan7777777
thanos /w/ THOTU was god over the entire multi-verse, or omni-reality

Possibly...it's never made completely clear whether it was A Universe, the Multi-verse or beyond even that....

The books make you go in circles, leading towards one conclusion, then contradicting it.

Originally posted by Grimm22
So far here is what I can tell as the Top 10 in Will Power...

1. Hal Jordon

2. Captain America

3. Kyle Rayner

4. Ben Grimm

5. Guy Garnder

6. Dr. Doom

7. Thanos

8. Alan Scott

9. Punisher

10. Batman

Honorable Mentions: Colossus, Kitty Pride, Invisible Woman, Spider-Man, ect..

so where should scarlet witch go?

Originally posted by Grimm22
Nah like Doom, Thano's downfall is usually his pride or his ego

I agree.

Originally posted by Mr Master
TOAA.

Thanos had the power of TOAA, but NOT the Omniscience of TOAA.

Which is why TOAA was able to manipulate Thanos like a child.

TOAA coerced that entire event.

I think not.

Magus with an Incomplete IG was controlling TWO Universes at once from ANOTHER Universe that was seperated from both.

Here Galactus sends Thor back to our universe

This is what is happening with our Universe, because of Magus

Magus Remakes the Universe in his image from Universes away

And that was with an INCOMPLETE IG, don't make me pop out a dozen COMPLETE IG Multibversal feats please. 😂

Possibly...it's never made completely clear whether it was A Universe, the Multi-verse or beyond even that....

The books make you go in circles, leading towards one conclusion, then contradicting it.

yes, the books are very inconclusive where thats concerned, at no time is thanos HOTU refered to as having control over the multiverse, all it ever says that he controls is the omni-reality (whatever that may be) 😂

Originally posted by galan7777777
then he would not have been beaten by some of the lesser beings

But he's NEVER been defeated, I thought you read the scans,

Thanos defeats himself, because his WILL is so strong, NOT because it's a downfall.

Thanos allowed himself to be defeated

READ the scans dude, so you don't have to repeat yourself.

Originally posted by galan7777777
all it ever says that he controls is the omni-reality (whatever that may be)

The Omni-verse = the Multi-verse and everything beyond in Marvel.

The Omni-verse of Marvel, has NOTHING to do with other companies.

Other companies may have their own Omni-verse, I don't know or care.