The Galactic Empire vs. The Yuuzhan Vong

The Empire:
Advantages
1. Strong, nearly cult of personality like fear and respect for Palpatine.
2. Is free to attack and assault on Palpatine's orders without being restricted by the Senate and greedy politicans.
3. A lack of what is right and what is wrong - use whatever is necessary to win.

Disadvantages:
1. Lacks the huge numbers of Jedi the New Republic had.
2. Division - some rebels against the Empire may in fact side with the Vong.

The Empire has its various superweapons as does the Vong have their own mega-weapons. If Palpatine with the Empire at its prime, had been invaded by the Vong, could they have stopped them?

I'd have to go with the Vong. Killing over 365 trillion people in the galaxy puts you in that "leet" category.

THE empire PWNS. It has 25000 ISDs and millions of smaller ships. it has the genius of Grand Admiral Thrawn and it has a death star. The vong get destroyed!

I don't know much about the Vong(I read the basic story for NWO, it sucked, so I didn't want to read em), but the Empire had a HUGE army, more than the New Republic could ever have, they win by numbers. And I doubt the Rebels would side with the Vong, are you insane? They would realise the Vong plan to be WORSE than the Emperor

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
I'd have to go with the Vong. Killing over 365 trillion people in the galaxy puts you in that "leet" category.

doest the 365 trillion people include the vong? they surely have died too

The Empire has quadrillions of ground troops and the ability to construct thousands of new ISD's every week if they chose to. The Vong even said they would have been pwned by the Empire at it's peak.

Really? I'd like that quote. I do believe you but it sounds really awesome and I might read the book it's in.

It's not from any one book. It's from data gained from multiple sources. One of them is stardestroyer.net. You should check it out. The proof is there.

yep. if you know math that is.

The 365 trillion dead include a mass of civilians you know, that number doesn't mean much.

And since the Vong feared attacking the Empire in the first place, why would they suddenly win now?

The Imps at their zenith had 25 000 ISD's, several Executors, countless support vessels, trillions if not quadrillions of troops, a galaxy under their direct control, a Death Star, the Sun Crusher, and a Sith Lord as their Emperor. The odds are not in the Vong's favour.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
I'd have to go with the Vong. Killing over 365 trillion people in the galaxy puts you in that "leet" category.

As Glentract and Tangible God have already surmised, the Vong felt that they dodged a massive bullet by waiting for the Empire to be beaten back into the Imperial Remnant. That is why they only tried to accelerate the Empire's defeat. They never attacked when Palpatine was Emperor.

Grand Admiral Thrawn, in fact, only joined the Empire because he felt that they would annihilate the Yuuzhan Vong.

And, then of course, there's the simple fact that the Vong's war against the galaxy was just sheer slaughter against everyone other than themselves.

Palpatine and the Empire only attacked the Rebellion. They didn't go around randomly shooting every civilian and loyal Imperial that they saw.

the retard vongs killed civilians too? havnt read that vong era yet, dont know which is the first.

ok but the empire with sidious the vongs are crushed because of his force storm and if they are using the eclipse, they have a super laser.
or vader incharge, he could maybe wipe out the small vong fighter ships.

or better still the fully built death star 2, 1 shot every few minutes

The Sith and the Superweapons would be a great help against the Vong, however it'd come to sheer numbers in the end.

Originally posted by Tangible God
The Sith and the Superweapons would be a great help against the Vong, however it'd come to sheer numbers in the end.

Which the Empire has.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Which the Empire has.

Amazing. Twenty five thousand Star Destroyers don't seem like enough (though I know that they were) to police a galaxy. How many Star Destroyers were in a sector fleet?

Can someone give a rough estimate of the total number of soldiers the Empire had, and the total number the Vong had?

Originally posted by Escape81
Amazing. Twenty five thousand Star Destroyers don't seem like enough (though I know that they were) to police a galaxy. How many Star Destroyers were in a sector fleet?

Just to quote myself...

And talking about "great armadas" I have to do some math here.
The usual "Sector Force" of the Empire contained 2,400 ships, 24 of them Star Destroyers, another 1,600 combat ships - the rest support.

A "Sector" in the SW universe has 50 planatery systems - each of them being represented by a senator in the Senate. The Senate contained roughly a million Senators = 1 million planatary systems = 20,000 sectors.

That means the Empire had:
480,000 (!) Star Destroyers
32,000,000 (!) other combat starships
16,000,000 (!) support ships (large troop transport / carriers)

And going by the the Star Destroyers alone (72 Starfighters + 9,700 Stormtroopers on each Star Destroyer) you would have 4.6 billion (!) Stormtroopers, millions of armored vessels and roughly 34.5 mio Starfighters.

480,000 Stardestroyers, 32 million other battle ships, troop numbers in the billions and this is the Empire without:
a) Operating Fleets that aren't assigned to sector defence
b) Not including troops / starfighters / attack vessels that were stationed on planets / the other combat ships
c) Completely ignoring Super-Stardestroyers, the Eclipse-Class Ships, the Deathstars and the other super-weapons.

The Vong are pwned !

Fo' shizzle.

I knew that the Empire could take the Vong (or any other Star Wars military force yet known), but the "twenty five thousand" number doesn't seem incredibly intimidating when you look at the vast scope of the galaxy.

Nai, your calculations seem much more suitable.

Well, that's just ISD's. That doesn't include dozen other different star destroyers in the fleet.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Well, that's just ISD's. That doesn't include dozen other different star destroyers in the fleet.

Forgot all about that.